DAA got their wish

NBar · 07-03-2022 07:49PM #1

Dublin Airport gets green light to charge drivers for dropping off and collecting friends and family - Independent.ie

Fingal CC eventually bent over and let DAA create their own toll system entering the airport to drop or collect family etc this country is getting worse for squeezing every penny out of the residents

daheff · 07-03-2022 07:50PM

This is BS stupidity from DAA.

All these extra costs only serve to annoy and alienate customers

Strumms · 07-03-2022 08:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058236270/daa-got-their-wish

I wouldn’t have so much of an issue with it if they’d have left it until the Metro was up and running, in 2076 but the fact is the provision for public transport to and from the airport is and always has been fücking dreadful…. means that ‘some’ people have to use lifts…

where I live, if I was to get to the airport via bus… I’ve a 10 minute walk to the bus stop with bags, 15…minute bus journey, get off…5 minute walk to another stop 12 minute bus journey… with cases that’s no fun…add another 10-15 minutes waiting for said buses…60-70 minutes on buses if you factor in wait times …vs 15 minutes off peak and 20 minutes in peak traffic….roughly 3 times the time and multiple more times hassle…

taxi drivers on the other hand will be pissing themselves with glee…another example of how this state and business people are totally against ordinary citizens…

dobman88 · 07-03-2022 08:33PM

It wouldn't be so bad if it was an effort to prevent people just parking up at arrivals for an extended period.

Have something like 1st 15mins free and charge for anything over that. Would stop people turning up too early and just hanging around, taking up space and creating needless traffic.

But if it's going to be a standard charge regardless of time it takes to collect, it's a disaster and another expense to factor in.

Strumms · 07-03-2022 08:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747455#Comment_118747455

That would cost them money though… to monitor, enforce and implement, instead they get the outcome they want with people paying for the privilege… I’ll be a lot less free and easy with my money once I arrive at the airport…

NBar · 07-03-2022 08:47PM

I'd get public transport no problem but bringing 2 bike boxes and cases makes it a pain in the arse now but i'd rather walk from the road then give them a cent more cause next we will be charged to Q into places due to valuable footpath space taken, if the drop off is time based with no charge great but dropping of a loved one etc and getting charged is the issue and how would someone outside Dublin get public transport to the airport, Fingal CC must be getting a cut of the profits

dobman88 · 07-03-2022 08:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747505#Comment_118747505

No need to monitor it. Put in a barrier, get ticket, if less than 15mins, just use ticket to leave, if more than 15 go to pay station. Simple.

That system is in use in the Pavilions in Swords and a shopping centre in Blackrock. Was always handy for me when doing deliveries

colm_mcm · 07-03-2022 08:49PM

There is a free drop off area as part of this.

RocketRaccoon · 07-03-2022 08:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747530#Comment_118747530

Shannon Airport have the same system

07-03-2022 09:02PM

There will be free parking in the red zone for people

NBar · 07-03-2022 09:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747537#Comment_118747537

https://youtu.be/8CPbZ9z7UR4

yeah in the red long term car park where you still will end up paying i bet to use the bus cause only way into that is via a barrier system, either ay its more cost to fly out of or into this country

road_high · 07-03-2022 09:44PM

Airports allover England had this as long as I can remember. Nice little earner for them and a constant revenue stream.

ongarite · 07-03-2022 09:45PM

Munich airport have had this for as long as I can remember too.

07-03-2022 09:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747875#Comment_118747875

Frankfurt airport allow you take a ticket at the barrier and if you are gone in 10 minutes there is no cost and unlike this is an airport with excellent bus, local rail and long distance rail connections on site.

10 minutes free at the terminal doors: https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en/transport-and-parking/parking/drop-off-area.html

This is a barefaced money-making wheeze for a vital piece of infrastructure which is in public ownership.

Wishbone Ash · 07-03-2022 10:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747455#Comment_118747455

Private cars aren't permitted into the arrivals area - only buses and taxis.

twowheelsonly · 07-03-2022 10:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747530#Comment_118747530

That exact system is in place in Cork Airport. Very effective and essentially leaves it up to the driver as to how long they want to stay.

dobman88 · 07-03-2022 10:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118747991#Comment_118747991

Departures then. Up the hill where there are multiple lanes for a one way system and where the drop off area currently is. I'm sure ya knew what I meant 👍

Phil.x · 07-03-2022 10:39PM

It's just a money making racket, sustainable travel bollox. Let's all walk or cycle to the airport.

road_high · 07-03-2022 10:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748230#Comment_118748230

All stealth taxes etc are wrapped up in this Sustainability bollox these days! If they were all really interested in sustainability the metro would be built by now…

Strumms · 07-03-2022 10:46PM

they want to reduce cars as part of a green initiative, ok…

say I lived in Howth…

The published transit times by private and public transport are the following…

Car 18 minutes

buses… none direct, 2 buses with bags over one hour.

train and bus… over one hour

Taxi…2 people, bags, tips.. both ways… 70 euros total, 35 each way including booking fee and very modest tip.

they don’t have any care about a green initiative, they have airlines on their apron using ground support equipment like tugs, catering trucks, tractor units, cars, and more besides, belching smoke and carbon into our environment .

then there are the aircraft themselves..

its a revenue generator, nothing else…

belching out crap about the environment is hogwash…€€€€

a revenue generator.

elperello · 07-03-2022 11:01PM

If your neighbour/family member can pick you up/drop you off for free at the Red Parking Zone and there is a free bus to/from the Terminals is that not a fairly good option?

User1998 · 07-03-2022 11:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748368#Comment_118748368

Not really a good option because you then have to stand and wait for a shuttle bus to bring you to the terminal, and the bus drops you a fair bit away from the entrance if I remember correctly. It would be a lot of hassle tbh. You just want to get dropped at the drop off zone and go straight inside. It would actually double the journey time for a lot of people.

NSAman · 07-03-2022 11:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748368#Comment_118748368

Try that with luggage three kids and a few push chairs...:)

07-03-2022 11:11PM

1.3km to red car park. now there will be buses trundling over and back. electric or diesel the environmental saving will be nil. It is a pure money making wheeze.

elperello · 07-03-2022 11:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748401#Comment_118748401

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748403#Comment_118748403

I get that it is a bit more hassle but it's much the same as for anyone who left their car in the car park and paid for the privilege and it's free.

Strumms · 08-03-2022 05:25AM

dont spend a cent more then you need to when you get inside the airport, they want to put a gun to your head, put one back at theirs, when their vendor retailers are down money and struggling to meet the rental contract… that might be a wake-up call for them…

I was always the type to grab a beer, meal, gift, reading material if a solo / work trip and drinks for the flight at the airport..

so about 100 euros give or take….

Just 1000 people a day traveling out start being a little more conscious of being ‘held up’ in this manner…..that’s 100,000 a day give or take less revenue going through the airport…

the DAA want to ‘gouge’ people which is precisely what this is, hit ‘em where it hurts.

In 2019 the daa according to their numbers made a €150 million profit… yet, they want to nickel and dime people who are dropping off the very clients who are making that profit ? that’s pretty fûcked up behavior…

alexonhisown · 08-03-2022 06:02AM

People dropping off are not the problem, it’s people who sit at departures waiting on people to arrive that are the problem.

Or they clog up the petrol station until they get a call to go up. I sit in airside retail park until I get a call, it’s about a 3 min drive to get to departures, no need to sit in your car, sometimes 3 lanes of them at departures.

although they were probably going to bring this in no matter what.

Del2005 · 08-03-2022 08:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118749099#Comment_118749099

A good few years ago I was waiting for a lift at the end of the departures ramp. The only people who parked up and left their cars had Dublin Airport badges.

Why can't they do a "Cell Phone" lot like a lot of US airports. Having a car drive to the Red car park is no better for the environment than the ramp and they will need a lot more buses to transport people from the ramp to the car park. Its not like the buses are empty at peak times and I always found the DAA buses terrible compared to Quickpark. I rarely waited more than a few minutes for a bus in Quickpark, 10 minutes or more for the DAA bus

Phil.x · 08-03-2022 08:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748368#Comment_118748368

They're going to need a lot more busses as any time I've paid and parked in the red carpark and got the shuttle bus it was out the door and some people are left behind. But that's alright as the motorist will pay again for these new buses.

08-03-2022 10:06AM

Why do drivers feel entitled to get all their sh1t for free? Buses and taxis pay a levy to access the airport, so why shouldn’t drivers pay a contribution towards the facilities they use?

Gotta laugh at the folks paying a good chunk of their disposable income to spin around in their massive SUVs, with four empty seats much of the time, dropping a couple of grand on their city break, whinging about paying a couple of quid for parking.

If you don’t like the charge, then fly less often or drive less often or both. Your grandchildren will thank you for it,

https://twitter.com/code4luke/status/1500651018350125060?s=21

HeidiHeidi · 08-03-2022 10:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118748403#Comment_118748403

Plenty people do this who use the red carpark while they're away?

Can't see what the problem is, I've never been more than 10 minutes getting from car to terminal.

DAA got their wish

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