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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    If I'm a Russian soldier and I've been told Ukrainians will greet me with flowers, and I see this. I'm turning around and walking home. I'd need to walk because I'd be out of fuel, obviously.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭cheezums




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I've gone from a far right,neo Nazis, transphobic , woman hater , warmonger,CIA agent , Blue shirt to a sheep ...

    Deadly I've come full circle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    but what about..


    I'l spare you the photos of the dead pilot, the other bloodied but alive and another two caaptured. Today will probably be declared national shoot down a Russian bleep day.

    Untitled Image

    Baaaaaaaaaaa....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The Ukrainian people seem to be saying fairly unanimously that they do not want the Russians there. To be honest, the Russians should have guessed this when the pro-Russian leadership was booted out of power. Even the ones who were more pro-Russian have to be looking at the constant bombardment of Ukrainian cities and going, 'Eh, actually...'.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    H

    Never said they were weak, but they look weak if they are trying to act like a super power.

    Even going straight to the nuclear war threat looks like a desperate move , I don’t think Putin has planned for this. That’s not underestimating Putin it’s implying he may not be the genius some think. Who knows, maybe he’s not the man he was 20 years ago, he is human after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    in fairness no surprise , the only thing those scumbags are good at is digging mass graves (and sadly filling them) .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Are you being serious? The Iraq war was against a genocidal dictator who tried to wipe the Kurds off the face of the earth. Who wants to wave a symbol of support for such a piece of filth?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Longing


    I know its CNN. But Admiral William McRaven view on how the war will go. Good listen.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭liamtech


    I cant stand whataboutery - it just keeps coming at us from all directions. And from all angles - I had my first 'whatabout the homeless crisis' today which was blood boiling.

    The iraq comparison just keeps coming up and we keep responding. And i would add this is NOT a zero sum choice. You can be AGAINST BOTH IRAQI AND UKRAINIAN WARS -

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Talisman


    At this stage Vlad should climb into his bed and not come out for a week ...

    The Ukrainians are giving a world class performance in delivering uplifting stories on social media.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭threeball


    I was watching an interview with a Russian ex pat who studies the Kremlin and Putin. She made the point that Putin was never a chess master. His modus operandi is to throw enough **** at the wall and see what sticks. This can be seen in all the accusations he's thrown around in the last 10 days alone. There's no master plan, just a load of accusations (nazis, drug addicts, empire of lies etc) to threats (nuclear, a threat like you have never seen before, if you help you're at war with us.)

    It's a common theme throughout his reign. Just a poisonous, ruthless little fcuker rather than grandmaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    You were wondering out loud why people were not displaying an emblem of support for Iraq ie. a dictator who brutalised and murdered his own people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks like reports that Russia is sending it's strategic bombers TU22M to hit Odessa and other Ukrainian targets tonight ,

    It would be massive if the Ukrainians can take several of these down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    So Putin appeared today surrounded by flight attendants…they all looked terrified with the fakest of smiles plastered on their faces if they thought the cameras were picking them up. Message to Russian population - ‘I am not a paranoid mad man taking on an old USSR ideology and bombing a neighbouring country to pieces because I want it back against its will…’

    Would have been interesting to have been a fly on the wall at the meeting between the Israeli PM and Putin. It seems like the West is attempting some form of back channelling diplomacy. Putin will lead everyone on a garden path and do what he likes regardless. It should be in his interest to have an exit strategy, but it may not depending on what his ultimate goals are.

    RIP to all the victims killed, including the poor 18 month old child in Mariupol today and all the other children killed in the conflict to date. Horrendous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭omega man


    Just turned sky news on there to see doctors trying to save a toddler who dies there and then (filmed yesterday in Mariupol I think). Its hard to think logically and not want to see Putin taken on with the full force of the west. Tragic needless loss of innocent lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




  • Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I saw the elevator one earlier and thought it couldn’t be topped. But there comes granny with her cucumber and knocks it off the top spot 😂

    🥒 👵 🥇



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Russia are only starting the Big War...after Ukraine is finally Bulldozed with a couple of hundred thousand dead Ukrainians - it will be Poland or Finland next up.

    Dramatic much? You'd swear some people want this. No it won't be Poland or Finland next. Russia's big scary 'military might' has shown its many weaknesses in this invasion. An invasion against a country with little cash and much of their military equipment Cold War hand me downs and a country pretty ideal for military vehicle use. And even with their overwhelming manpower they're already bogged down in a few places because their tactics and fighting men are below par. Taking on a NATO country, even if we take nuclear weapons off the table(and their introduction in reality would be beyond a clusterfúck and I can't fathom why some people don't understand this), would be a very different prospect. The Finns have previous in dealing with Russian forces and totally fúcking them up. The Poles would fight like crazed animals if the Russians put a jackboot on the wrong side of their border and that's before the rest of NATO got involved. And get involved they would, because it would show Putin and his minions to be actually insane/stupid for escalating.

    Plus it'll be a long time beforre Ukraine is close to being 'bulldozed' by the Russians. And even if they hold it there are thousands of armed to the teeth Ukrainians ready to make it Russia's Afghanistan all over again. And that's before the worldwide sanctions on near everything worth a damn for Russia that are going to bite ever harder and harder and their foreign reserves locked and the assets of their mafia ruling class seized. The world isn't just 'looking on'. I have never seen such swift, decisive and group condemnation and action from so many nations against one in such a short time. In a matter of days. They're cutting Russia off from the world and supplying support and arms to the Ukrainians. The World has said "enough" and loudly. The only thing they've not done, and it would be dribbling moron time to do it, is put troops on the ground. Y'know, because of WW3 and thermonuclear effin war.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    @Wibbs great post above my man. A hopeful outlook that is much much needed right now.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,432 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    US Carrier Harry S Truman and several other ships have taken up position in the north Aegean Sea which is outside their normal operation area. The reason given is in case Russian warships try to ignore Turkey's denial of permission to transit Dardanelles and Bosphorous straits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Putin always seems to Escalate after any negotiations or peace talks.

    Reports on polish midea of two large explosions in a Russian city on the border with Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    If you own a Lee Enfield here in Ireland, you definitely know my Dad....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    One idea I've seen touted thinking outside the box is for multiple countries to literally saturate the sky with aircraft above the areas of concern in Ukraine, so that Russia would be unable to fly sorties and any incursion would be met with a wall of military airplanes with Russian fighters being escorted out of Ukrainian airspace. Logistically I imagine it would be a nightmare. Could it be done if there was enough international support?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Botrys


    apparently our friend wasn't even there

    he was edited into a prerecorded video with a bunch of actresses





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Exactly. Also, the amount of assistance the E-8's, Global Hawk and E-3 Sentrys are giving, through secure Data communications, to the Ukranians is incredible. Most people are not aware of this. For example, within an hour of today's E-3 coming online in Poland, 3 aircraft were shot down. Their radar can see far into even Russia and they are giving the troops the heads-up on enemy movements in real-time. ( Jet heading North West, ETA your position 15 minutes, warm up a MANPAD)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,706 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Dramatic much? You'd swear some people want this.

    It's incredible isn't it? It's been a long time since I've heard such chickenhawk gobshitery said about a war. Some people really do think that this is all just some LARP'ing XBox game or something. It really amounts to little more than something for them to yap about or try to score some cheap points on.

    Russia's big scary 'military might' has shown its many weaknesses in this invasion.

    I don't believe that the Russians had a solid plan for this and I also don't think that they've gone in hard against the Ukraine yet. Their ops have been...confusing...to say the least, and a lot of things seem to be very ad hoc. I also don't think that the average Russian, be they citizen or military, are fully behind it either. It all appears to designed on the hope that Russia could toss a few missiles in and the Ukrainians would just buckle and bish, bash, bosh..regime change. Unfortunately, for Putin, the rest of the world has rallied in behind Ukraine's plight. I reckon Vlad thought he'd have a free hand after the west had spend the last 20 years cosying up to him. Especially in the last few years with his best buddy in the White House saying nice things about him.

    The main thing is, there are probably very few people outside of the top echelon of Russian government who actually know WTF this is all about and what the actual end game is, leading to what seems to be a very bizarre and unfocused campaign. That can lead to some very serious issues with the conduct of the war, as you'll have some real resentment building up amongst servicemen and women who'll be wondering what the hell they're supposed to be fighting for, with a danger that they'll end up taking it out on whomever is the easiest target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Seen that on the other thread ,I'd be very sceptical ,I'd say that NATO has the Ukrainians on a tight leash to prevent them dragging more Russian forces into the fight



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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