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is_that_so · 03-03-2022 08:47AM

Germany look like they are stepping up and clearing out old stock.

Germany is considering supplying 2,700 anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine as it seeks to defend itself against an invasion by Russia, a government source said on Thursday.

German news agency DPA reported earlier that the economy ministry had approved supplying the Soviet-made Strela missiles, part of the inventories of the former German Democratic Republic’s army.

The Strela is a light-weight, shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missile (or MANPADS) system. It is designed to target aircraft at low altitudes with passive infrared homing guidance and destroy them with a high explosive warhead.

Also

The International Paralympic Committee (IPC) said Thursday it was banning Russian and Belarusian athletes from the Beijing 2022 Paralympic Winter Games, which begin on Friday.

They had originally agreed to allow them to compete as neutrals but a lot of countries threatened to pull out.

astrofool · 03-03-2022 08:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118723984#Comment_118723984

They are usually allowed compete without state sponsorship under the Olympic flag, not sure if that would be allowed here.

faceman · 03-03-2022 08:56AM

Interesting thread about the impact of sanctions on aviation for Russia. (ireland is name checked too)

https://twitter.com/janedvidek/status/1498723248183382020?s=24

Addmagnet · 03-03-2022 08:57AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118723999#Comment_118723999

The Strela is a light-weight, shoulder-fired, surface-to-air missile (or MANPADS) system.

Can't help but read that and mentally file it next to manboobs ...

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 08:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724022#Comment_118724022

Yeah, probably not conflict changing but as Tesco say .... !

cubatahavana · 03-03-2022 09:00AM

I’m so tired of this “I’m no political expert so I cannot say if this is wrong” nonsense coming from privileged Russians

03-03-2022 09:00AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118723989#Comment_118723989

Yeah once they close off the Black Sea and make it as far as the Dnieper, they'll sue for peace. They'll have completed all their objectives at that point

XsApollo · 03-03-2022 09:02AM

Sue for peace all they like, whatever happens sanctions should be staying indefinitely.

Dohnjoe · 03-03-2022 09:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724035#Comment_118724035

Then all those in Russia who yearn for the USSR will get a real taste of what it was like.

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118723910#Comment_118723910

All week? CNN is good to dip into and they have correspondents on the frontline so to speak but like the BBC and others it is of much greater use to all of us when they find people who have a lot more insight into military matters, geopolitical strategies or the state of Putin's head.

Mecanudo · 03-03-2022 09:09AM

Good link for up to date reports by an Ukrainian reporter based in Kyiv

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1499257929840697350?s=20&t=mQD96br3lyQFc1puUDJTIg

See:

https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko?s=20&t=KML9sGEriiz6pit8Rtt8tg

Also writes for

https://kyivindependent.com/

Dohnjoe · 03-03-2022 09:10AM

Looks like the invasion is speeding up NATO "expansionism", Finland and Sweden warming more to the idea of joining NATO. Apparently they've already received a threatening letter about this from Moscow.

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:12AM

More financial woes for Russia and its companies.

Investment service provider MSCI is booting Russia from its emerging markets indices and is now calling the country a "standalone" market.

The firm said Wednesday that Russian stocks were "uninvestable," based on feedback from "an overwhelming majority" of investors and asset managers following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Starting next Wednesday, all Russian indices will be reclassified, MSCI added.

On Wednesday, FTSE Russell, another index provider under the London Stock Exchange, also said it would cut Russia from all its widely tracked stock indices from next week.

Addmagnet · 03-03-2022 09:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724032#Comment_118724032

You say that as if they'll get a little congratulatory window pop up informing them they've acquired a new Xbox achievement to show off to their friends and then the ~~game~~ world resets.

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724049#Comment_118724049

It's like he's complicit in creating his own worst nightmare.

fly_agaric · 03-03-2022 09:14AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118723789#Comment_118723789

Your thoughts on the "West" (esp. Germany) being all Business as Usual and merrily making money with Russia while Ukraine was invaded and carved up by Putin seem to have been somewhat incorrect. So this makes me unsure of your demoralising predictions now either.

As I said before I think you, and morerso others of a right wing persuasion on here who have or had a bit of admiration for Putin and his methods displayed many times over course of thread, see these authoritarian states as strong/macho vs the weak "wokie" lazy and greedy West, and planning everything out 10 moves in advance + we've no hope etc.

I don't think a lot of what is going on now is planned out by Putin and his associates in his spectre style lair somewhere. It's fairly chaotic.

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724028#Comment_118724028

Don't ask me to put my life at risk is closer to the subtext for some of them.

Speaking of people who know what's going on here's a list of his inner circle/henchpeple.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60573261

Dohnjoe · 03-03-2022 09:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724052#Comment_118724052

Indeed, Russian assets and the rouble are toxic now, the market is just trying to get rid of them (if they can)

03-03-2022 09:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724056#Comment_118724056

Not at all, it's just the rest of Ukraine holds no value for them

Mecanudo · 03-03-2022 09:17AM

This was written last year and makes chilling reading now in the light of Putins invasion of Ukraine

https://mobile.twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1396956590713020416/photo/1

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724003#Comment_118724003

The IOC seem to have been motivated by a lot of other countries refusing to take part, even with them under a neutral flag.

Heraclius · 03-03-2022 09:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724065#Comment_118724065

Do you think the Ukrainians will sign that? Would other countries recognise it?

cj maxx · 03-03-2022 09:26AM

I ,for one, am extremely concerned that Putin will start WWIII. **** Psychopath . This is what it must have been like in the sixties and even the 30's when Hitler went on the rampage.

Cody montana · 03-03-2022 09:27AM

Did they ever open their stock market?

is_that_so · 03-03-2022 09:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724093#Comment_118724093

More the fifties than the sixties. Post Bay of Pigs it was a scenario of detente, even though the spectre of MAD was there until the SALT talks starting in the 1970s.

Bayonet · 03-03-2022 09:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724049#Comment_118724049

Russia sent them letters demanding assurances for Russian security. The chutzpah is off the scale with this lot at the Kremlin.

Bayonet · 03-03-2022 09:36AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724099#Comment_118724099

Just waiting on the elites to sort out their finances before opening up for the inevitable disaster.

Dohnjoe · 03-03-2022 09:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118724099#Comment_118724099

"How can stock market crash when it is not open, checkmate West"

Bayonet · 03-03-2022 09:41AM

One of the few remaining dissenting voices in Russia gets shut down.

Ekho Moskvy, a liberal radio station in Moscow, has been dissolved by its board, its editor Alexei Venediktov said, in a move eliminating one of the few remaining liberal media that the Kremlin has tolerated until now.

The move came shortly after the prosecutor general's office demanded that access be restricted to Ekho Moskvy and the TV Rain online news channel because of their coverage of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

03-03-2022 09:42AM

Any scientists on thread? Got the below from EuroScience this morning. (Edited for brevity)

We encourage all members of EuroScience, and all researchers and science professionals working in the Russian Federation, to evaluate critically the action of the Russian government and to join in the signature of the open letter of Russian scientists and science journalists against the war with Ukraine.

SIGN THE OPEN LETTER HERE

(Founded in 1724 by Peter the Great and based in Moscow, the National Academy is the highest-ranking research institution in the Russian Federation.)

The Letter

We, Russian scientists and scientific journalists, declare a strong protest against the hostilities launched by the armed forces of our country on the territory of Ukraine. This fatal step leads to huge human losses and undermines the foundations of the established system of international security. The responsibility for unleashing a new war in Europe lies entirely with Russia.

There is no rational justification for this war. Attempts to use the situation in Donbass as a pretext for launching a military operation do not inspire any confidence. It is clear that Ukraine does not pose a threat to the security of our country. The war against her is unfair and frankly senseless.

Ukraine has been and remains a country close to us. Many of us have relatives, friends, and scientific colleagues living in Ukraine. Our fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers fought together against Nazism. Unleashing a war for the sake of the geopolitical ambitions of the leadership of the Russian Federation, driven by dubious historiosophical fantasies, is a cynical betrayal of their memory.

We respect Ukrainian statehood, which rests on functional democratic institutions. We treat the European choice of our neighbors with understanding. We are convinced that all problems in relations between our countries can be resolved peacefully.

Having unleashed the war, Russia doomed itself to international isolation, to the position of a pariah country. This means that we, scientists, will no longer be able to do our job normally: after all, conducting scientific research is unthinkable without full cooperation with colleagues from other countries. The isolation of Russia from the world means further cultural and technological degradation of our country in the complete absence of positive prospects. War with Ukraine is a step to nowhere.

It is bitter for us to realize that our country, together with other republics of the former USSR, which made a decisive contribution to the victory over Nazism, has now become the instigator of a new war on the European continent. We demand an immediate halt to all military operations directed against Ukraine. We demand respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Ukrainian state. We demand peace for our countries.

trv-science.ru/2022/02/we-are-against-war/

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