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  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    According to the UN, 368,000 refugees have now fled the Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    The summary of the German Olaf Scholz suggests that EU is facing the biggest shift since the fall of the Iron Curtain. Targets are all Russian oligarch assets, all Russian banks, criminal investigation against Putin, cutting of Russian gas supplies, ramping up military. Germany was for the last 30 years the strongest Russia friend in the EU, but that has changed over last 3 days.

    Poland is calling to close the gas pipe Nord Stream 1 and scrap Nord Strean 2 telling that it's not gas inside those pipes but billions of euros that are use to finance the war.

    Poland declared to provide as much food and supplies to the poeple waiting in the border queues as Ukraine can distribute.

    The Ukrainian Ministry of Interior Affairs opened a web page for Russian families with details of Russian soldiers killed in the war. The page will provide scans of documents to allow verification.

    Russian soldiers mobile phones were confiscated before the operation to make sure the information about the situation are not flowing back to Russia.

    Italy joined the list of countries that closed their air space for Russia planes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I say it would be refused but you just don't know. I think his bluff won't be called tho if he uses 1 and threatens to use more. Let's hope he doesnt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Important to be conscious of the level of propaganda involved in war ,talk two days ago of two thousand Russian soldiers having been killed, no one seriously believes that is accurate


    How well supported the Ukrainians are will be exaggerated, they have help but ultimately are fighting alone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    I didn't forget it - I just don't want to repeat what I posted yesterday :-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    If I’m not mistaken, a few videos now have shown convoy vehicles are being towed by a leading vehicle. If that is the case they must have serious supply shortages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    He's doing an incredibly bad job if that's the case. The West is totally united.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    At the same time though, they are very much putting this on Putin’s shoulders. They seem to be making his position extremely unpopular and vulnerable and now that Germany has joined in, they must think he is getting near the brink. Once he is gone and hostilities in Ukraine are over there will be a rapid effort to ‘normalise relations with Russia’.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are the Russian army being deliberately incompetent. Is this a fight most Russian military don't support and are half arsing it on purpose? 'Whoops, I should have sent the refuel truck towards the Ukrainian capital, not the Russian capital? My bad,comrade. Sorry, what... the line is breaking up <beep>'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    They musk be experiencing a lot of your tv cannot find a WiFi signal so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I see figures of over 4000 russian soldiers killed...where are these figures being pulled from?

    No figures of ukrainian soldiers only civilians...

    Theres so much bullshit and propaganda its hard to know where you can get reliable information...

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe a bank run is the Russians' way of finally trying to collapse their government? :D

    Where is Putin btw? I heard he spends most of his time in bunkers and hideouts these days. He's getting more and more like Dr. Evil with his fortified lair, stupidly over-powered weapons and of course the 2. Hundred. Billion. Dollars he's amassed.



  • Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Esther Calm Valedictorian


    If that's replicated across the country, I would be very surprised if there is not an uprising within Russia in the next 2 weeks.

    Putin never got the buy in, an absolute solo run in a quest to bulk his own legacy. He has sealed his fate. And completely, almost dinosaur like failed to understand modern media and communication. I'd say the average Russian is getting a lot of accurate information outside of the state propaganda on mainstream channels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭Banana Republic 1


    If Putin launched then that would a different paradigm entirely and it’s hard to see how NATO wouldn’t directly get involved and Putin wouldn’t be found dead in the Kremlin swimming pool with a knife in his back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Again, fog of war. You're probably not going to get anything that could be classified as 'official' as the conflict continues. That will be tallied in the more sober days once this has ended.

    It's really weird to be watching this in 2022. Here we have an invasion; a war between two European countries that is not totally one-sided, and you can flip between channels that are sympathetic to one side or the other. And it's unfolding in the full glare of social media. A million electronic eyes recording every aspect.

    I hate to say it, but I have to admit it, it's riveting. I don't think I've watched anything else on TV since last Tuesday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Technical question. There does not seem to be much (or any?) evidence of Russian use of precision, laser-guided munitions, or of cruise missiles similar to Tomahawks. Do they have any? The US have had the former for over 20 years and the latter for over 20 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    But they do, they really do. 18-19 year old's. conscripted into an army that has a high rate of suicide as a direct result of "Hazing" carried out by not only the NCO's, but by any soldier with a higher rank than them. Then they find themselves in Ukraine, grist to Putin's mill. Green as green can be. But for the Russian professional soldiers, or Chechen's, they have earned ( indeed deserve) the bullet, and without even the courtesy of a call home.



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Can't remember if I mentioned it on thread but yesterday I got talking to someone living nearby and I asked if they were following the news. "I follow it a bit but I have my own opinion on things" and yet somehow I knew exactly what those opinions are. 🤣 He's anti-vax (knew that already) and had the usual talking points. First time he brought up America I pointed out that I was against most of the US's foreign policy and that it wasn't particularly relevant. 2nd time I said "Here's a challenge, see if you can make any of your points without mentioning America". :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    I hate trying to deal with people like that. They just have one mantra and think it makes them smart so they stick to it.


    Whereas,in reality, everybody knows that Russia invaded Ukraine because of Hillary's email servers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,764 ✭✭✭storker


    Not only that, but (apparently) only told that they were going on exercises, only realising at the last minute that they were actually being used in combat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    This early in the conflict there is no way you're going to get accurate details. Ukraine will have had a high number of casualties but for morale reasons they aren't going to admit it.

    The Russians lie at every opportunity so scratch getting it from them.

    The Ukrainians numbers for Russian dead are exaggerated but maybe only by 50%. Just going by the number of destroyed Russian vehicle convoys if they had troops in them there definitely were heavy casualties, couple that with 3 troop transports being shot down at least 300 troops gone if they hadn't been dropped from the planes.

    The Ukrainians are definitely bleeding the Russians and causing a considerable weakening of the Russian military machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx




  • Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Putin's march in to the Ukraine has seriously backfired:

    I've just watched Scholtz address the Bundestag and there is a complete change in defence policy and energy security policy in Germany not just in response to Russian Agression but in general.

    This year's budget will divert 100billion euro as a once off payment to strengthen the military.

    Defence will receive going forward over 2% of GDP to rebuild the defence capability of the German Defence Forces.

    That 2% quota will be put in to law so that it does not go down in future years.

    Germany will buy/develop European military machinery like Eurodrone and Eurofighter not U.S. hardware. Some Israeli stuff was mentioned and a F35 for aircraft carrier operations.

    They're going to wean themselves off Russian Gas quicker and build 2 LNG terminals and increase the reserves/options of gas by 2 billion cubic metres(???). Russian Gas is no longer the only game in town. Eamon Ryan should note that the Greens in Germany are OK with LNG terminals but he isn't.

    They are putting in support for higher energy prices by increasing support for those who commute by car and those who are poor/socially vulnerable.

    Maybe the Germany's defence and energy policies were right in the past but they're changing them now not just because of Putin but fückery from Erdogan , the U.S. and the Arabs over the last decades years.

    Von Der Leyen as German Defence Minister never got this level of support as the policy at the time was to be a good neighbour and business partner to the world but Putin's agression has shown that this is no longer possible.


    Macron should be delighted as the scope for Partnership in pursuit of policies beneficial to Europe between France and Germany has increased immensely as a result of this policy change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,765 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Unfortunately the Russians did hit some nuclear waste being stored, but despite the usual panty-wetting people in ireland go in for concerning any mention of nuclear, it really shouldn't be a problem, just a mess to clean up later, among the many others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    I reckon this has shown NATO as little more than a potential big bullies club.

    If Ukraine were to bring any military action across the border into Russia during the curent conflict, Russia's mates in NATO may view that as an invasion. Yet Russia can quite happily invade Ukraine and NATO members don't do a thing.

    Post edited by Mecanudo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    The Ukrainians have set up a hotline so that Russian parents whose children are soldiers can find out the status of their child and their well-being in the Ukraine. They are also raising funds to have the bodies of the dead soldiers repatriated to Russia. This is an incredibly powerful move on the part of the Ukrainians



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thing is they're not necessarily stupid. If someone just goes the wrong way it's easy to go down a rabbithole. What's frustrating to me (because I'm a prick) is when ya meet one who has all the details memorised, but only the ones they read. It takes research to point out that most is either total BS or a misrepresentation and while there'll be a few true (but often irrelevant) points as part of the whole "argument" it doesn't outweigh all the information on the other side of the argument.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    "Niles..... these boyhood photos of yours. Why are you pouting in all of them?"

    "Those weren't pouts. You know very well my pollen allergy caused localised swelling."



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