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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭zv2


    When I hear about numbers of weapons sent I get angry. There should be no f'ing numbers there should be a constant supply of everything they need. F'sake.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    So, what happened with Kyiv last night, anyway? I was expecting to wake up this morning to the news that it has been subjected to a ferocious bombardment by Russian tanks and artillery, but that doesn't appear to have happened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    I decided to do a little research and took a look at TASS, have a glance at

    this for doublespeak nonsense.


    This would be up there with:

    "Delighted Irish citizens hold parade for Black and Tans" or "Ecstatic Poles celebrate as SS enters Warsaw"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Just catching up now, what is the situation in Kharkov? Doesn't look good

    Happen to see Kyiv surviving another night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    They have been ordered to attack from all sides but haven't succeeded yet as Ukrainians are holding them off. General Wesley Clark, former NATO head honcho, reckons a couple more days for Kyiv.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,072 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Not sure about that but that might be the way to spin it ... also gives him a way to withdraw from the rest of Ukraine if they get bogged down while still declaring victory and also claiming they reduced Ukraine militarily.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The European Union is weighing up banning Russian flights in its airspace, an EU official told Reuters.

    Foreign ministers will discuss the plans later on Sunday. Many countries have already taken the decision individually but an EU-wide measure could be part of a new package of sanctions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    From the Daily Fail, but if true, I could see this leading to an internal coup to take Mad Vlad down.

    Screenshot 2022-02-27 095445.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    All Russias security issues might have been allayed if they had emerged as a normal country from the collapse of the soviet union. They may have become a democracy and joined NATO as a counter balance to the US in NATO. Instead we got Boris Yeltsin who oversaw the plundering of Russia by Oligarchs followed by Putin who protected the interest of those same Oligarchs.

    I hope this this does result in his head on a stick but I would not wish for another Regime. I would wish for a government that is replaced every 5 years, a parliament and power vested in a prime minister, and a presidential position as figurehead only.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Amazing resistance by the Ukraine army/people.

    Does anyone know if there's a gathering/protest walk to the Russian consulate (didnt know it existed until yesterday) on the Ennis Road in Limerick today?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Hang on, I don't understand the land corridor to the Black Sea thing. Do they mean a land corridor along the coast between occupied Crimea and the breakaway regions in Donbas? Otherwise, looking at a map, Russia already appears to have a lot of access to the Black Sea. Sochi sits right on the coast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I was just looking at piece on BBC News that discussed the former German Chancellor a lot. It's not beyond the realms of possiblity that Germany were compromised during his spell, especially in the timeline around him stepping down from Chancellor.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,489 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Leaks from the Oligarchs summit with Putin seem like they are already running very low on short to medium range rockets and are finding it very hard to replenish supplies themselves. If true they are gonna have to take the entire city on foot which considering how many weapons are in civilians hands is going to be a nightmare and maybe not possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭storker


    Putin must have forgotten what a problem the Germans had with that in 1942.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Russia has literally never been a functioning democracy. We can all wish devoutly for it to become one but democracy is a plant that requires deep roots, it hasn't even penetrated the topsoil in Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Longing


    Think about it. No one city is fully controlled by Russia. Incredible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed, this was well explained on a report yesterday by a Russian journalist

    The main state controlled Russian outlets, which the majority of Russians use for their news are reporting that the "special operation" is going well, there are no pictures of Kyiv or the fighting elsewhere in Ukraine, no mentions of Russian casualties whatsoever

    Russians do have access to the internet, but the country doesn't have that penetration others do, and it's mostly only young professionals who get their news from abroad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Although RT\Pravda says Russian soldiers have been welcomed by dancing Ukrainian maidens who have bedecked the smiling troops with garlands of flowers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    He's made one bad gamble after another here. He gambled on a very swift end to this, that Ukrainians would not fight and that the West would not respond in such a united way as completely as it has done and is still doing. He also gambled that Western governments would not face populations responding to higher energy prices and those populations are more than willing to do so. Finally, the quick German shift on SWIFT and the very big one on weapons exports were not in whatever plan he had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Russia still haven't gone in all guns blazing , I doubt we've yet see their A game



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,899 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I don't think anyone really believes that, putin had trump completely under his thumb, were Biden to do so, it would be a sign of weakness (not that it's going to happen).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    Your last point is absolutely key.

    Decades of German foreign policy key tenets overturned in days. And the Western response is united and more hawkish by the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,755 ✭✭✭Bigus


    So they’re just letting the Ukrainian’s get up to speed tooled up by the west and organised before they send in their best ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Do they even have one that doesn't involve levelling the country? Their real problem is 44 million who do not want them there and many of those will resist and fight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,468 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Watching RT news last night, the Ukrainians are shelling their own schools. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Well Putin would want to get his A-Game on the pitch now, if it exists, because once his Oligarch buddies feel the pinch of sanctions, they may be more amenable to a regime change from within.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,308 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Indeed, the Russians can go in much harder than this, they did it to Chechnya.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,774 ✭✭✭storker


    I wonder if COVID has helped this. That crisis showed just how quickly drastic changes can be made when needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,891 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If Russia continues to struggle making headway, and that could certainly change, how about this as a peace deal -

    1. Russia to withdraw all forces, including from Donbas
    2. Russia to pay reparations for war damages
    3. Internationally-observed referendum held for Crimean accession to Russian Federation

    To be fair on the Crimea question, even leaving aside the 2014 referendum, there have been two previous referenda in 1991 and 1994 where the questions were, "Do you want to leave Ukraine and be your own SSR?" and "Do you want greater autonomy from Ukraine and be able to hold dual citizenship?", respectively, and in both cases the answer was overwhelmingly 'yes'. So, I think the question does at least need to be decidedly asked if Crimea wishes to be a part of Ukraine or not. It would give Russia a chance to save face and pipe down a bit.

    Still, any peace deal with Russia comes with the troubling suspicion that peace deals with Russia may not be worth so much.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Longing


    Musk has used his satellites to provide internet for Ukraine. Great news.



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