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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Where's all the footage of the oppressed Ukrainians waving minatute Russian flags as they are being liberated from their Nazi oppressors? I'm confused.

    Embraced by molotov cocktails must be the local tradition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Ukrainian MP Kyra Rudik on Sky News came acrosss very determined and resolute that they will not allow Russia to take Kiev easily.

    She said many Russians have died and will go home in plastic bags..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    The Ukrainian info so far has been on point. They know that sending misinformation out there is putting them in the same box as putin so while you won't hear much about their losses, they'll certainly let us know about the victories.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    The Russians silence speaks volumes. They are shamed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Being filmed on a soundstage in Moscow probably.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Big march to the embassy today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,525 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    She was interviewed on channel 4 news yesterday as well, hugely impressive



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I see reports of Russian forces running out of fuel and food. One video shows a Ukrainian offering to tow a tank back to Russia.

    Also seems reports that the Ghost of Ukraine is real and has shot down 6 Russian Jets.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,131 ✭✭✭malinheader


    I found it very hard to read people rejoicing and posting how great it was that a plane had been destroyed carrying 1 or maybe 2 hundred Russian troops. Some mother and fathers sons. Young men following orders of a mad man.

    I am definitely not condoning Russia's actions and I am sure plenty of atrocities will be carried out by them.

    I just can't see how this is going to end well, people claiming Ukraine will beat them back. Well I can't see this happening. Cant see the Russians turning around and accepting defeat. The more Russian troops are killed by weapons supplied from the west will in my opinion only strengthen Russian public support, hopefully it doesn't.

    Best case scenario someone puts a bullet into the crazy dictator and therefore can pull out with being seen as a defeat.

    Worse case scenario he decides all is lost and decides to press the button.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Deub


    How long before Putin decides to take actions against countries supplying money/weapons to Ukraine?

    I hope it won’t happen but unfortunately, it is a risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    How can he. His army is bogged down in Ukraine. Great time for the Chechen wooden to stage a comeback. Or Syrian rebel forces to counter the government. Putin is busy.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are a lot of dodgy actors operating in Ireland: Russians, Islamic extremists, God knows what the Chinese are up to.

    Anyway, protest at the Russian Embassy today. Trying to find details so I can organize meself, but I think at 3 PM. (Obviously, I don't advise leveling the place... in broad daylight.) P.S. Rathgar can be hostile territory at the best of times, so bring supplies. ;) :)

    EDIT: Protest seems to be 1 PM in Rathgar and 2 PM O'Connell Street.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Yesterday 9000 persons crossed through the medyka border into the Ukraine, sighting on there entry papers to fight for Ukraine.

    Mostly Ukraine but polosh British German French and Eastern European passport holders.

    It was confirmed by polish ministry of defence .

    Same is been reported at all crossing along the border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭CPTM


    Do you mean if the defence country wins, or during war itself? If it's the former then I agree. Yes if Ukraine can defeat Russia, then I'm all for fighting back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If he does ,

    Imagine the consequences for the Russian military in Ukraine , they are struggling against the Ukrainians imagine what happens when 80,000 + nato troops tanks and hundreds of aircraft come rolling in ,

    He's not going to hit a Nato country (part of me hopes he does)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,568 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Heard about that at some train station in south east Poland. Refugees getting off one train and foreign fighters getting on the other to head into battle.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    They don’t even go back if Twitter is to be believed, they get cremated on the front.



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  • Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Isn't the 80k just the initial rapid reaction force?

    Not sure how big a nato force would get in such a scenario but alot bigger than 80k I'm guessing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Of course not, to answer your vacuous question, but as a journalist, I check. You clearly haven't bothered to check the source. If you had, you may not have asked such a question.



  • Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    I know what you're getting at. By all accounts the disparity between the forces is such that the Ukranian resistance is somewhat pointless and the experts seem to agree that it will fall*. I'm no military strategist, so I don't know whether falling back to an insurgency right away is advisable or not in these circumstances, but I feel like some people are cheering events like they were watching FA Cup giant killing exploits or something.. like cheering on a child in a boxing match against a heavyweight. It doesn't sit right and that's even before you get into the poor Russian sods that are dying for their tin pot leader.

    *There is also a propaganda component here.. while the Russian army is way bigger and ultimately more powerful, Ukraine is no slouch and has much more than molotv cocktails and random citizens with AK47s to rely on (and that's before the extra arms of the past few weeks arrived).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From the BBC

     UK Armed Forces Minister James Heappey says the UK and 25 other countries have all agreed to provide more "humanitarian aid or lethal aid".

    He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that the UK would now work with those nations to coordinate how the military aid is delivered and "put into Ukrainian hands" - but gave no further details.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    That's the realities you face when you invade another country. Yes they're soldiers who probably don't believe in the mission in some part but they are happy to land, and go kill Ukrainians with impunity. I'd rather watch them die than watching kids and infirm people being bombed and shot. So I don't feel one ounce of sympathy for anyone capable of doing this like I'm assuming most others don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    The supreme historical irony in all of this. Putin, in trying to refashion some kind of Russian Imperium has merely succeeded in driving all the former Western Soviet republics, and the countries of the former Eastern bloc, into the Western camp forever.


    'Epic fail', I believe the kids call it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy



    It's tough but war is kill or be killed and when you are in another's country



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭jackboy


    A big difference watching this compared to the American invasions over the years. The Americans start with massive bombing and missile attacks, which can go on for weeks. Then when the opposition is really degraded and demoralised massive armies of ground troops go in, or they use disposable proxy armies. The Russians in contrast have gone in after a very light bombing campaign. I suspect that the battle plan may not have come from the Russian generals.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 58,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Pretty much this. They're foreign invaders intent on committing terrorist acts on another country's sovereign soil. To put it bluntly, **** em.



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