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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,432 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Trump really wrecked the minds of many people, they can’t think properly anymore."


    You have never said anything more true.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    @matchbox2021 Firstly Sussman's lawyers have also stated the data was gathered during the Obama presidency. He's also not charged with hacking, nobody is. So let's talk about DNS records. Basically their best use is tracking where traffic is going. So if Trump had machines that were hitting servers in Russia for example that would stand out traffic wise. You don't get to see what's happening in the underlying traffic.

    An example of something that was likely gathered from end records. We're aware that the Trump servers tended to communicate with Alfa Bank which is a Russian bank. We don't know what the traffic pertained to.


    Fyi, using dns records to track traffic is entirely legal. So I imagine that's why you're not gonna see any charges around them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Not a peep out of the Donnie fan club about any of this 🤔

    It's all Durham, Durham, Durham...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    And Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.

    We will be back onto Hunter very soon at this rate.


    A very bad week indeed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,344 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Matchbox, what do you take from this Durham report?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    Remind me again, how many weeks if not months did MSM and posters on this website repeat the unfounded accusation that a cop was killed by having a fire extinguisher smashed over his head on Jan 6th?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,344 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Really? But what difference. It was chaotic, there was attempts to hide information, to twist the truth.

    Remember it was originally claimed it was actually Antifa?

    But the core story was and us correct. A bunch of Trump supporters, egged on by Trump himself, attempted to breach the capital and using force to overturn the legitimate democratic result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    If you're looking for reminders, remember when you're looking for proof about those classified documents found in mar-a-lago?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    Did they find the 14 plus boxes full of documents as claimed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,297 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    I know what it was, a poster claimed it was 14 plus boxes full of classified information.

    Yes it's from 2010 but shows that a lot of what's marked "classified " is harmless public knowledge.

    Much of what the government says is classified isn't much of a secret at all. Sometimes, classified documents contained little more than summaries of press reports. Political banter was treated as confidential government intelligence. Information that's available to anyone with an Internet connection was ordered held under wraps for years.




    Days after President Barack Obama's inauguration, the White House received a classified message from the U.S. Embassy in Ottawa. It was a primer for the president's upcoming trip to Canada and it included this sensitive bit of information, marked confidential:

    "No matter which political party forms the Canadian government during your Administration, Canada will remain one of our staunchest and most like-minded of allies, our largest trading and energy partner, and our most reliable neighbor and friend."

    The document could not be made public until 2019, for national security reasons.


    Sometimes, a document is classified even if it has no classified information in it. In January, the State Department asked the U.S. Embassy in Ankara, Turkey, for information on a reported plot to assassinate Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc.

    Every paragraph was marked unclassified.

    The document was classified.


    So forgive me while I don't fall over myself because the word classified is used. It's been referred to the Justice department and it will go from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    But, but, her e-mails!


    We know you won't fall over yourself. It's critical of Trump, you can't abide that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    You seem more concerned over the number of boxes than you are about the fact that Donnie's accountants cut ties with him, stating that they could no longer vouch for his financial statements for the last ten years. A pretty serious development, wouldn't you agree?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,344 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And we are back to looking for loopholes.

    When, during the HC classified email witch-hunt, did Trump supporters ever argue about level of classified? Or exactly how many emails?

    He illegally removed classified information. Information that the archives had to retrieve. Ie they weren't handed back, he wanted to keep them.

    Trump was right about shooting someone on 5th. Posters like CF would argue whether 3 or bullets were used, the exact model of gun, or whether it was really 5th since the person died around the corner.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How many times did they repeat the now debunked ties between trump and Russian banks too. The lies that Sussman made up. A little bit of searching could unearth a treasure trove.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭Celticfire


    Funny you call it a witch hunt when private servers were used, 30,000 email were deleted using bleachbit , and phones smashed to destroy evidence. Did you argue that what she did was Illegal? Was it illegal, yes or no? If Trump was able to hand them over to the records office then it's fair to say that unlike your poor witchunted Hillary he didn't destroy classified info.

    Over the course of the investigation, the agents found thousands of emails that contained information that should have been treated as government secrets, Comey said Tuesday, including eight messages that had Top Secret information in them. All those messages had been sent or received through unsecure, unclassified channels on Clinton’s private e-mail network. And while agents found no direct evidence that the network was hacked, the FBI thinks it is possible some “hostile actors” may have done so. That combination of facts led Comey to declare Tuesday that Clinton and her aides had been “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”


    Trump was right about shooting someone on 5th. Posters like CF would argue whether 3 or bullets were used, the exact model of gun, or whether it was really 5th since the person died around the corner.

    You mean like how posters on here spent weeks saying that protesters killed a cop on Jan 6 by smashing a fire extinguisher over his head when it never actually happened but bashed people that had the audacity to challenge that story.



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought you were saying he was responsible for hackings. 😂



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Joffe and Sussman are two different people. Do you deny how much Trumps links to Russia banks was spoken about on boards? It was the thing that was finally going to get him, once and for all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Tell us what other ID you were using then and maybe we'll answer.



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  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You agree that dns data between trump tower, trump apartment and the executive office of the United States was ‘gathered’, Durham alleges all the way up until a couple of weeks into trumps presidency. I’ve posted about this previously.

    I call this spying since Durham said the intent to ‘gather’ this information was for the purpose of disseminating derogatory information about Trump. A use that was not previously specified for gathering this information(only from the EOP). Information that has since been investigated and debunked.

    We could nit pick about the definition of spying until the cows come home and not get anywhere, and you are correct no one is being charged with spying, yet, but it was included in the factual background submitted by Durham. How did they get access to trump tower and his apartment, there was no previous arrangement to collect that dns data.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There are many take aways. One important one I noticed last night while researching this story was that Jake Sullivan is the ‘foreign policy advisor’ mentioned in Durham’s filings and he currently serves as the national security advisor for Joe Biden. Jake Sullivan who was pushing the Russia hoax for years is the foreign policy advisor and right now we are seeing tensions with Russia never seen before.

    This mentality of ‘let’s use anything to attack Trump- even if it isn’t true’ has real world consequences.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    What do you think about Donnie having to testify as part of the NY investigation or his accountants cutting ties with him? You seem very concerned about spying allegations but not so much about the actual investigations into the former President.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don’t care about dear ‘Donnie’ in the slightest. I care how a system that can implicitly collude to attack people that don’t conform, but I guess this is a discussion for another thread. I was trying to have this conversation about Durham in the Biden thread but my posts were deleted. In fact one of your mates reprimanded me for it, take it to the trump thread they told me. I’m certainly not trying to divert any conversation from any other stories about Donnie. Please don’t let me stop you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭Billy Mays




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,297 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can assure you you have me mixed up with someone else. I’m aware of that poster too and it’s not me. What was misinformation is now disinformation. Focusing on the person and the character is a cheap deflection. It’s needless, childish and arrogant. It stinks of ‘I have nothing better to say’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    How aware of that poster are you? Tell us what you know about that poster?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Anyone taking bets on how long his new social media platform will last?


    Gonna guess 6 months.

    1 month before the first hack.



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