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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Having Trump on anyone's books is barely worth the paper it's written on, he's not well known for paying what he owes people. Also any lawyer worth their salt risks having their standing dragged through the mud by doing that orange idiot's exact bidding in-court.

    I feel that any lawyer who willingly takes on Trump as a client at this stage must be:

    A) Someone who thinks that they are such a good lawyer they they will succeed where others have failed.

    B) Someone truly blind to the true nature of the guy and took the job unaware.

    or,

    C) A MAGA zealot in service of their God-King (based on behavior, she's probably this)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Any proof ? I have that theory very interesting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    But surely he would present this proof of Clinton spying. He has the proof. For years apparently. If ever trump needed it, it's now. Or even better, BEFORE the last election. That would have handed trump the election.

    So obviously it is fair to say that there is NO proof. At most, there is similar unverifiable "eyewitness" testimony of said spying. Maybe he can bring another drunk woman as proof.

    The fact of the matter is: If there was proof - irrefutable, verifiable proof, it would have been brought up years ago and it has not. So there is none and he is lying. Which is part of the reason why he is disgraced and disbarred. He is the poster boy of how toxic a relationship to trump organisation is. He has sacrificed his career, his reputation, his personal dignity! As others have said, now he is simply a joke, a punchbag. Decades from now he will be used as a cautionary tale of choosing who you deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    D) knows that their only path to success is through the fame/infamy of being associated with trump. We will see this lawyer on Dancing With The Stars or something similar in a year or so and then go to fox as soon as she bleaches her hair.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Speaking of Rudi...

    Screenshot_20220218-133458.png

    The last thing Guliani tried to slam was Borat's underage niece...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Rudy should have more to worry about than Eminem taking a knee



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,881 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    New lawyer typical #2xIMPOTUS legal team. Mediocre school, not much professional experience. If she pulls more nonsense she'll learn what a judge's displeasure can bring to lawyers.


    Passed the bar in the usual states around NYC (NJ, Connecticut). Seems to practice out of NJ, not Wall Street



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,169 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Jimmy Savile raised millions for charity. We don't talk about that anymore because he took a great big shíte over his own legacy.

    Giuliani is not on the same level as Savile but by shilling for the likes of Purdue and associating himself with Trump, he's completely tainted any goodwill people had for him in the aftermath of 9/11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    20220218_141712.jpg

    BLM, immigrant caravans, MSM, Hillary - the right certainly do love a boogie man...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,856 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I've seen Guiliani's past mentioned several times on Boards. People wonder why he has destroyed his own legacy. Now he'll be remembered for a bizarre press conference at a garden centre, trying to dig up dirt on Trump's opponents, and having a tug in front of Borat's niece. At this stage, he can't even disappear off the stage with the explanation that he's just a crazy old man.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Let's not forget he is allegedly on the masked singer (I seem to have read that somewhere) utterly bizarre even for him if he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    "Special Counsel John Durham himself has dismissed Fox News misleading reports about his court filing"

    What's the next fake news story?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,191 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Checked Twitter to see '#Hillaryforprison' is trending.

    A sure sign Donald is panicing because he is probably knows he is fcuked. He campaigned 6 years ago on a simplistic catchphrase of 'Lock Her Up' and of course when he was President he did nothing, and could do nothing because there was nothing to prosecute her for.

    And now, as he becomes more and more vulnerable, she is returned to once again. It's a sure sign they have nothing when they go back to the only thing that worked for them in desperation at this point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    but but but what about the hacking, spying, hunters laptop .......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭relax carry on




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    And now for actual news


    WASHINGTON (AP) _ Archives says Trump records retrieved from his private club had classified information, Justice Department informed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    And which one was demanding proof when the revelations first aired?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,524 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    You know the drill.


    ”Yeah he took classified information but her emails!”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Scot_in_Dublin


    Weird, where did they all go? I mean they know that Durham had said DFG was being spied on right, and have proof of that. They also know that he for sure hadn't taken classified documents with him, and for sure had proof of that....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,209 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Trump Jr. and Giuliani dismissed from the case, but Trump himself still part of the lawsuit.

    If only all legal rulings were made by electoral colleges rather than the law. Trump might have a chance of winning some of them.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The fake news story is wherever you read that. Quoting the Sussman counter motion to strike is ridiculous because he is a proven liar with every reason lie.

    “Special Counsel John Durham on Thursday said that there is "no basis" to "strike" any part of his recent filing, despite a motion from Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann to do so.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Just in case anyone pops up saying trump was within his rights to remove classified documents.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    That filing related to a conflict-of-interest matter in Durham's ongoing case against the former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann, who was charged last year with lying to the FBI. It did not allege that anyone associated with the Clinton campaign illegally spied on Trump or his White House.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,136 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    It still amazes me that Trump supporters are more than happy, in fact seemingly focused, on taking any bit of news, connecting it to something else regardless of how tenuous that link, and then extrapolating from that an outcome.

    Yet with Trump, despite abundant circumstantial and in some cases direct, they demand that without a complete and total case then nothing can or should be considered.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,161 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    It shouldn't amaze anyone. Anyone still actively engaged in defence of Trump has either:

    1 deliberately blinded themselves to his ever growing long list of faults and failures because some/all of their beliefs align with what Trump represents.

    2 Could never and will never see him for what he is because some/all of their beliefs align with what Trump represents.

    Considering Trumps own beliefs change constantly and are essentially what's in it for Trump; Trump can represent pretty much anything to his supporters. They aren't really defending him, they are more defending their own beliefs which are given fuel and airtime by the disaster that is Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,307 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's people who are just desperate for someone to follow. So desperate that they will, literally, ignore everything that puts a dent into their belief and they'll draw so many red lines in the sand that nearly any position they previously held will be a mile away from where they currently stand. They've invested too much of themselves in this piece of shit that they can't back off now without losing face, which is the most important thing to them. So they'll cling, pathetically, to any morsel of black propaganda or conspiracy theory that may come their way (hello Fox News) in the hope that that morsel will be the smoking gun they need to justify their position once and for all.

    Either that or they're just stupid fuckers. In which case there's absolutely no helping them whatsoever.



  • Posts: 714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don’t think business insider can make up its mind. In this recent article it says that trump definitely wasn’t spied on, but in an earlier article they do mention this:

    Durham's filing said some of the internet data that was mined was connected to two Trump buildings in New York City, the executive office of the president (EOP), and an unrelated Michigan hospital company that had also interacted with the Trump server.

    It added that Joffe had access to this data because his employer had a set of "dedicated servers" for the White House as part of a "sensitive arrangement" in which it provided DNS resolution services to the White House.”

    Joffe abused a sensitive arrangement to gather information on Trump for the purposes of using it against him. If this isn’t spying then I missed the day we all redefined the word ‘spying’.

    In fact in the motion from last Friday this is what Durham says exactly:

    ”tech executive 1(Joffe) and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP’s dns data and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump.”

    What exactly have I or anyone else misinterpreted about that statement? Is that not spying technically but the same in practise?

    So many outlets are so quick to say that Durham has ‘ missed the mark’ or that right wing news misunderstood Durham entirely without explaining what the hell they mean. Yes Durham said in the most recent filing that some media outlets may have got it wrong but he never specified. I guess interpret it as you please.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,191 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    What exactly have I or anyone else misinterpreted about that statement?

    😅😅😅

    Good one.

    Fox News shut up pretty quickly didn't they, I guess interpret that as you please.



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