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Kurt Zouma thinks it's funny to use a cat as a football

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Wouldn't it be a pity if someone went in two footed on him in his next game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,918 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    He might not be so quick to kick with a couple of torn ligaments….not that I’d advocate that of course, just saying…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,114 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I didn’t know everyone was upset by the video. Source?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,929 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Not the upset part the animal cruelty part. Sorry I don't have a source however unless one lives in a vegetarian tribe they are contributing to animal cruelty.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's hard to believe you can be this stupid but then again I've seen some of your other posts.. but what do you think the animals you eat are fed and how much land does it take up that would otherwise be occupied by insects and other creatures?

    You don't really think it takes less land to produce meat calories than plant calories do you?!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,445 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    My bacon and eggs. And milk were lovely thank you. And my burger tomorrow will be nice too. And, at expected, we see the usual brigade attempting to turn the conversation to their sanctimonious selves. Look at me... I'm better than you. Only I can dislike animal cruelty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Not really, but if things like the subject of this thread make you uncomfortable maybe look at where your food comes from, because the animals involved likely had a far worse time than the cat in this predicament. I know you don't care, but it's hard not to call out the hypocrisy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Calls me stupid, doesn't even understand the very basic premise of my previous post. Gotta love boards.

    WFT does the amount of land used for cattle have to do with the amount of SENTIENT ANIMALS KILLED by the land use? There is no correlation.

    When Steven Davis began setting up a course on animal ethics for the animal science department at Oregon State University four years ago, he reached a rather surprising conclusion. Millions of animals are killed every year, Davis says, to prepare land for growing crops, "like corn, soybean, wheat and barley, the staples of a vegan diet."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Confirmed you're an idiot, thanks. Corn, soybean etc. are the staples of meat eaters diet, and the animals they are eating too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    I don't watch these type of vids but from the description his brother filmed it while laughing, more than likely this is not a first and quite possibly they've grown up doing these type of things and he's now including his young son in the 'game'


    that's a problem, a big one



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Liberty_Bear


    Saw the clip and it wasnt just a kick without thinking, he drop kicked the poor thing. Fans are going to make his name mud and rightly so. Nothing can excuse such horrible behaviour



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Can you fooking stop with your incessant drive to fook over Irish agriculture.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    When I see videos like this I shudder to think what goes on away from the camera. The scumbag should be booted out of West Ham and definitely never allowed to keep animals again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    BTW I would hate to think what Mr Zouma would do to a dog.

    Just another incident of a not very bright, in fact sometimes odious individuals, who happen to be pretty good at a sport and now make an absolute fortune thanks to eejits paying over the odds for jerseys, pay per view TV, etc.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,975 ✭✭✭buried


    Wow. What an absolute shower of total trash.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,857 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Around 56 billion land animals are slaughtered each year. To feed those 56 billion land animals alone, requires more food than would be required to feed 8 billion humans is the point @Thelonious Monk was trying to make. So rather than feeding plants to an exploited animal who will then be killed, as well as all the crop deaths occurring to feed that animal, it's far more efficient to just eat the plants directly. Yes there will be unavoidable deaths and this is unfortunate, but the amount of unavoidable deaths will pale in comparison to feeding those 56 billion land animals and then intentionally killing those 56 billion land animals on top. This isn't even touching on the trillions of fish killed each year.

    The relevance to the thread I believe is that people will get upset hearing of an animal that in our culture we see as a pet, being abused, while paying for the exploitation and abuse of other animals. Neither are necessary, but yet one is acceptable and normal just because our society and culture dictates it to be, yet from the victims perspective, they both value their life as much as we value ours.

    This is better known as cognitive dissonance, which is explained pretty well here:

    https://youtu.be/tnykmsDetNo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 tonium22


    There used to be lot of videos on LiveLeak of youths luring stray kittens with treats or any cat .all American videos . Shockin

    Then kicking them like a football



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭AyeGer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I wouldn't be so sure about that. Somehow I can't quite believe Zouma when he says this was an 'isolated' incident.


    Well actually I saw it via twitter originally. Anyway this story I'm glad to see has gone viral today in msm. Even The Guardian decided to go with it a couple of hours ago - https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/08/west-ham-kurt-zouma-kicking-cat-rspca-criticises ,if it's somehow better to read about it there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,918 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    His career is in free fall, you’d wonder if there are more reasons then footballing ones as to why an established and international footballer playing for Chelsea gets shifted and is out on loan so much when he wasn’t exactly a youngster…

    11 caps in 5/6 years for France

    99 appearances for Chelsea in 6/7 years.. now playing for the hammers.

    seems to be managers maybe don’t have great faith in him… most or some of that could be off the field carry on… it’s unlikely to be made public… but it’s not something he’ll live down… and clubs will be very hesitant now to be associated with ‘Kurt the cat kicker’

    good enough for him too, play stupid games, win stupid prizes… I doubt he’ll escape a conviction as a bonus… police are investigating.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,072 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Ugh, holier than thou vegan thread derailment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Pretty shameful from West Ham to name him their side tonight, that's next level brushing under the carpet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Some guy went on about all the insects vegans kill. I couldn't help myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    That's just ridiculous, you don't have to be a vegan to believe domesticated animals should be treated better in general. There are something like 1.5 million pigs in Ireland that never see the light of day, kept in horrific packed conditions. Almost all pigs are reared permanently indoors on bare slatted flooring over toxic slurry tanks.

    We can do much better, but I would imagine the vast majority of people would choose cheap meat that they can afford to eat every day rather than more expensive meat that comes from well treated animals. That's why these kind of outrage stories annoy me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Teaching his children animal cruelty, not fit to be a parent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Yeah but as a meat eater I don’t give a crap about animals being killed for food.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Wish my career was in “free fall”. He just started a Premier League game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,975 ✭✭✭buried


    Yeah lets all thank the good f**k it wasn't his television either

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,377 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,969 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Don't respond to him. He's just looking for a reaction.



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