Cities around the world that are reducing car access

Dublin is also bypassed

Dublin has far too much private traffic, it is not a pleasant place to be for pedestrians or cyclists. This is what sends people to suburban shopping centres.

The poster gave an example of a city that discourages car use and has seen a big increase in footfall. You tell them that it is a baseless claim and use a city that you wont name as an example. How can that be taken seriously?

I live in the Netherlands and while cars are allowed in the city it is made more difficult for them with one way streets, reduced speed limits, priority access for pedestrians/bikes. It leaves the city centre a nicer place to be. To get into the centre for me would take about 8 minutes by bike with free city centre parking, to drive could take anywhere from 5 minutes to 30 minutes depending on traffic and would cost at least 2 euro an hour. I never drive into the city centre. And the car free streets in the city centre are definitely the more vibrant streets with on street seats for restaurants, and the pedestrian shopping street seeming to be a lot busier than the shopping street that allows cars.

I'd say there is a big difference between car friendly and car tolerant. The cities you mentioned would be more car tolerant. They have large pedestrian areas where cars aren't allowed. Cities in the Netherlands are car tolerant whereas you can drive into the city if you want, but it is almost always easier/quicker to cycle or take public transport.

Irrationally disturbed? Car intolerant?

Firstly I am not disturbed by by cars. I own a car, I just realise that there are places that are better without cars. Do you think this would be as pleasant a place to be if there was a two lane road down the middle of all the tables?

Also I'd brush up on your reading skills. I said car tolerant, not intolerant. I would like an explanation from you how your city is car friendly rather than tolerant, do they encourage driving into the city or is it just one of the options? Do they provide free parking?

And its Irelandrover, not IrishRover.

Bar owners haven't been dependent on their patrons having car parking spaces since drink drive limits were brought down in the 1990s! City centre bar owners have been nothing but entirely supportive of reducing car access.

Again I didn't state that was the best, I asked if it would be improved by a two lane road. You seem to have trouble stating that some places are better if cars are forbidden. Are those outdoor dining areas in your city in pedestrian areas or do cars drive by as you eat?

So car friendly to you means that you can park your car?

See that sounds like my city but I'd describe mine as car tolerant, they have a lot of one way streets and even a lot of pedestrian only streets. Id say my city is bike friendly, priority bike lanes going through the city centre, multiple covered, supervised free bike parking, prioritizing bike lanes over the car lanes, bike lanes are both directions when car lanes are one directional.

Im not actually sure what your point is here, you just seem to be here to tell everyone how great your city is without telling anyone where your city is. The fact is that transport isnt a zero sum game, in a lot of cities widening bike lanes means that footpaths or traffic lanes get smaller, turning over a street to pedestrians means that it is harder to cross the city for drivers. Prioirtizing bus lanes means cars wait longer at traffic lights, bike lanes have to have traffic lights installed.

My preference is to make cycling the most commonly used option, it takes up the least amount of space, creates the least pollution, is the healthiest option and allows the most useable space for people, greenery and shops in the city centre rather than car parking spaces.

I mean this genuinely, can you show someone proposing a complete ban of cars from a city centre. I haven't seen it. Id disagree with a complete ban on cars.

Feel free to spend five minutes reviewing death and injury statistics for your country or city if your confusion about who you should fear on the road persists.

I'd guess that if you said that about the bike industry, others might point out that the bike industry isn't the industry suffering a huge global backlash over their pollution practices and their lies about pollution.

You seem to hold others to a posting standard that you don't meet yourself.

I have looked and i don't see anyone wanting an outright ban on cars in a city. You aren't so much offering an alternative to fanatics here as you claim, but rather you seem to be making up things people say and then argue against that.

To easy for you to change the subject? Once again, feel free to spend five minutes reviewing death and injury statistics for your country or city if your confusion about who you should fear on the road persists.

You can start by telling us how many people are killed by motorists in your city vs number killed by cyclists?

SUVs are the tip of the iceberg. Cars cause huge pollution in manufacturing, in daily operation, in disposal. EVs may reduce the pollution from daily operation a bit, but they are a long way off clean.