Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Not one's that this entire shite is targeted at.

Its all about removing whatever little luxuries are left. There are types on this thread and they know who they are would prefer everyone was renting shoeboxes and plugged into the borg of work home and work. Up to their eyeballs in debt. Silent and compliant.

Luxuries no. They're for rich people only. Now eat your porridge.

As noted only the VAT.

But its intended to reduce alcohol consumption... which is already on a downward trajectory.

Subtract also lost revenue with the people who do booze runs to Newry or further...

And there may not be any extra revenue at all, a reduction is even possible.

The only cliche you have is every Irish person is an uncontrollable drunk.

Its funny how this stuff is pushed by people who were problem drinkers and they self reflect on the rest of the population. Weird that.

so the state will get 19% (23/123) of the increased revenue and the rest getting passed up along the supply chain.

maybe my initial cynical view that this was a stealth tax was off the mark, and it is a genuine attempt to decrease consumption.

i dont think it will decrease consumption. the people that can afford to will just swallow the cost, others will prob decrease their food/clothes budget to accommodate.

Why not simply reinstate the previous ban on below cost selling from the old groceries bill if that is the claimed problem? Any evidence that excise increases were absorbed by the industry?

so the people with drinking problems wont be effected an iota. and i tend to agree.

i suppose the results will be apparent when the data on alcohol related crimes/hospitalisations/mental breakdown issues (prob not deaths cos they take years to manifest) is released, vs the bottom line alcohol sales which may be down.

they must have baseline data right now as their reasoning to introduce this

Was talking to a few female friends and what mup has changed for them is swapping bottled beers for cans, as its better value, so mup is making some people drink more!! 🤣 €11 for 6×330 bottles vs €13.50 for 8×500 cans, so well done that mup....pet!

The baseline data is they think it will move people out of their homes into pubs. Theres no other data that makes sense for doing this. Consumption is for the last 20 years and continuing to drop while apparently our alcohol has never been cheaper. That circle doesnt square with a need for MUP.

I was in Aldi recently, post MUP.

A case of 20 bottles of Bud was €21.

I was surprised.

I was expecting something in the €40 range based on posts here.

Why was it €21 ?