Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

They lie because they think they're fooling people.

I think that when they interact with other conspiracy theorists they find that people will usually believe what they claim without much critical thinking, and they find that making catchy or bold statements gathers them a lot of support and attention. This leads them to be tempted to stretch things here and there, like perhaps a brother who has a job tangential to hospital work becomes "a consultant for a hospital." That would certainly sound more impressive than "my brother sells office supplies to a hospital and said..." and get a lot more attention and props.

No other conspiracy theorists challenge them on this stuff, so they assume that no one else would either. So in places like here where this kind of thing is exposed, it's very upsetting for them. They don't seem to understand why we aren't impressed by fibs and truth stretching.

As I keep saying I don't think they're the ones making the conspiracy theories vague. I think that comes from the producers of conspiracy theories, and the theorists aren't willing or able to make stuff up on their own.

The dodging and lying and dishonesty, that's all them though.

It's why they want to ban dissenting thought here. That way it will be another place where they can roleplay at being an expert and have people indulge that.

Though I think that given how conspiracy theorists here rarely actually comment on each other's theories (except to make a show about how mean we all are) that most wouldn't find that indulgence here at all. They'd post some link they found from their browsing. Make a vague statement about how the conspiracy is out there and they're wise to it cause they're so smart and informed. Then no one else would post about it cause even other theorists would find the theory silly.

Any indulgence they'd feel from posting would be entirely ficitional.

It was conspiracy theorists who called for the forum to be closed down, it was conspiracy theorists that requested that they be allowed to post whatever they want without being questioned on thier claims.

I don't think you understood his post or what irony means I think.

Could you point out where dohnjoe or anyone not a conspiracy theorist has called for opinions to be disallowed from the forum?

Could you point out where dohnjoe or anyone not a conspiracy has said some ideas cannot be questioned?

Could you point out where anyone has claimed that conspiracy theorists are part of a conspiracy?

Or better yet, could you go back and address some of the points you've left dangling?

Particular points like:

Hi. Sorry. Why are you ignoring the points I made earlier?

Is it because tou cannot address them honestly and are now trying to deflect away from them?

If so. I think that perfectly demonstrates the points about you conspiracy theorists we were just making you lazily objected to.

Similarly I think when you are now challenged on this new tangent you're deflecting to you will start ignoring things and try to deflect to another new topic.

Also could you explain this please:

Why are you misrepresenting this report so blatantly?

Did you not actually read it?

Or did you read it and just ignore this part?

Getting a Covid jab is 200 times safer than taking aspirin.

Whenever you stop being rude you should read the text after the table they you missed. The bit about taking an antigen test. You may have missed it accidentally.

But the article you posted specifically states that the data you are using cannot be used to reach the conclusion you are reaching.

In addition, it does not at all state your conclusion. That's something you are inferring (though let's be honest, Some conspiracy grifter on Twitter is inferring and you're just repeating what you are told.)

And then your article directly states the opposite of what you're claiming.

You will of course not address this.

You will not address anyone's points.

You will not explaithe conspiracy you are suggesting that somehow involves the Scottish health system and fact checking websites.

Do you not ever wonder why you can't address this stuff?

It’s not a fact though if that’s what you are taking from the table. The disclaimer identifies issues with the data that you are ignoring.

Have you read the document, or are you regurgitating what someone on Twitter/Bitchute says? It does identify vaccine effectiveness from their own data.

Awaiting next deflection point because no one can identify real safety issues with vaccines.

You are double vaccinated. Your risk of dying from Covid is substantially lower than someone who is unvaccinated. If you get a booster, then the risk you will die compared to someone who is unboosted, is lower.

Alternatively, if you are unlucky enough to catch Covid, the flipside of that is, during the next few months you will have decent immunity.

It's like you think there is some "scam" going on, that you are somehow being cheated by the virus. You aren't. Double vaxxed and booster reduces the risk vs just double vaxxed. Why you are going so nuts about it is unclear.