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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Masks in a healthcare setting should become a permanent thing imo. Such a low cost measure for preventing spread of infections. COVID wise the most important thing is that we don't let the disease surveillance lapse. I can see this relaxation of restrictions also leading to a relaxation in testing and tracing. It should be scaled back appropriately. My concern is though that it may be reduced to level where it's insignificant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah, the whole, "Giving them time to get ready" doesn't make any sense. Most places have still been open until 8pm anyway, there's not a lot of "getting ready" required to keep those doors open a few extra hours.

    Fingers crossed. It'll be a bumper Jan/Feb for hospitality, at a usually very quiet time.





  • Scare Byrne literally cant say one positive thing.

    Between reading out messages from people who will now "scared" to be go out, saying people will be too "nervous" to walk up to bars and the real gem, somehow managing to work into the schools narrative that "children will get neck strain from carrying around heavy book bags.

    There is something seriously wrong with her.

    I hadn't listened in a long time but just threw it on for the craic this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Tony playing 4d chess again. If the government announce opening times extensions for tonight they'll have given nobody time to prepare. If they announce the extensions from a future date they'll be questioned why they didn't release the restrictions from today. They. Cannot. Win.

    He's really making his moves to transform the Republic into his Empire.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    That is probably why both you and I and a large percentage of the country would benefit from some form of counselling😊

    No doubt that there will be healing that needs to happen individually and between family and friends- I do hope time and normality wipes the slate clean and makes us less divided as a society. For me seeing the scorn and hate spewed online towards people who held an opposite opinion was one of the biggest negatives of the whole thing.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Masks will fizzle out naturally I suspect.

    Once covid retreats out of news, people won't feel a pressure to wear them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,985 ✭✭✭growleaves


    It is the people who are scared to go out who should go out, and the people who are nervous about walking up to the bar who should go to the bar.

    Basic behavioural therapy for people with anxiety neuroses, phobias and OCDs is to do the thing they're scared of in order to recover psychologically.

    Avoidance behaviour will just preserve these covid-related mental illnesses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The main consideration for hospitality is stock and staff, I know my local this morning is trying to change rosters for the weekend now to take account of the changes, along with ordering more stock in & by all accounts the suppliers are out the door with late bars, clubs etc trying to get stock in ASAP so it could be a long day for deliveries.

    Apart from that most places are good to go.

    If you can open fire away, some might need a few more days but really it's down to the individual business now to make that call.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Agreed. But if they come out and don't ALLOW pubs to stay open tonight, and force them to wait until tomorrow, that is taking the píss. As you say, let the businesses decide.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    A lot of those talking about being scared are just waffling anyway.

    I've often seen these people saying they're concerned but they still go the pub every week.

    Just normal Irish whinging rubbish that people don't actually mean.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,249 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I wouldn't want to be a nightclub calling 50 staff this morning to hopefully come in tonight......


    Plus stock, sure weren't we told on here diageo were told to stop production before Xmas for a lockdown.....



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    But nobody is forcing anyone to open. It's about not forcing people to close!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,249 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    I know, but I also wouldn't want to miss out on that first weekends money, it could still be your most profitable January since the tiger if you get 2 weekends out of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    +1 Any business operating under restricted trading hours is doing so because of health advise. That advise was totally removed yesterday evening so it should be 100% up to individual businesses based on their own logistics to open from the second the restrictive health guidance was removed.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭cheezums


    The only post covid inquiry I would be in favour of would be into the consistent leaking of NPHET/government discussions and decisions. Disgraceful way for the country to find out about public health matters. A pandemic is not the time to be playing politics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    They dont have to open if they are not ready !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,233 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    When will the mass testing of the population end I wonder?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,249 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    2 weeks ago when we basically stopped giving PCR tests to under 40s?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Like masks, the testing culture will fizzle out once the drama element has been taken out of it and people will just move on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,985 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Any 'public' (ie political) issue is built around divisiveness with media encouraging people to take sides. Esp. feminism but really everything.

    Statistically we had full vaccination (>90%) so there was no reason to have a big, bitter fight with slanging, blame, negativity, hatred and recriminations but we had it anyway.

    Guarantee we will rotate onto some new blame issue where some group is perceived as sabotaging the rest of society. 'Toxic white males' perhaps? Or are we meant to be angry at immigrants? Hard to keep track.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It won't be anything until the Cabinet make a decision today. Apart from the given of a reverse of the 8 p.m. close and capacity limits at sports venues most of the rest is open to speculation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    I fúcked the boxes of masks I've somehow managed to accumulate into the recycling bin this morning. I'm done with them. Make zero sense when all other restrictions have been removed. Without other restrictions, masks are just naturally going to disappear as people won't bother. Already seen a big drop recently.

    They personally don't bother me too much. But they're pointless considering how a vast majority wear them. And the quality of them being poor too. I'd say if we never implemented mask wearing in social settings, things would be pretty much the same. I believe high quality masks used correctly in certain environments such as hospitals can be effective. But how they were used in the wider society rendered them useless. And on that note. Bye bye masks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Speculation that most of the entire population are anticipating though.

    This is MMs defining moment in his political life. I just can’t see him not going for glory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I can see how food businesses might take a few days to get up and running with ordering extra stock and making arrangements with staff hours but they should be permitted to open immediately and leave the logistics to themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    We all damn well know they'll try to open even if they're not ready and place a stupid amount of pressure on whatever staff they can pick up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,673 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    When the twitter notification on my phone popped up with the news, I couldn't believe it, this is finally over. I'm in my 30s and married with kids but I think I'll go clubbing to celebrate 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    In short: The legal prohibition from opening past 8pm can't just be lifted on the spot due to procedural red tape, but the government can informally ask that the regulations be ignored and advise businesses that they can open tonight if they want. Technically they'd be in breach of the legislation, but they wouldn't be prosecuted. It sounds very half-arsed, but it's not without precedent that laws remain formally on the books but are ignored/unenforced because they are due to be stood down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    surely they have to remove it from. the notifiable diseases list before testing is removed completely.

    but I suspect it will turn into only if you go to hospital will it be notified

    https://www.hpsc.ie/notifiablediseases/listofnotifiablediseases/

    My weather

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