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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    So much of our COVID data is statistical or based on identified and known risks. Yet, our understanding of SARS-COV-2 is still extremely limited and some further work on unlocking those mysteries is essential. We do need a much better understanding of why one obese person is in ICU while another is happily sipping pints without a bother. IMO we can be less concerned about the vaccine only approach with anti-virals on their way and who knows what other treatments we will have come next winter.

    Post edited by is_that_so on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭growleaves


    'instead of looking to keep some things like covid certs just to stick it to the man or women who is unvaxxed or unboosted'

    But spiting others helps me to assauge my bitterness and frustration at having to work a job I hate, pay taxes and all my other difficulties.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


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    Hong Kong to cull hamsters after Covid outbreak

    The decision to cull about 2,000 hamsters and other small animals comes after health officials recorded Covid cases at a Hong Kong pet shop.


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Wasn't there a Polish study that was claiming a genetic predisposition to an individual being badly effected by a covid infection? I think in years to come our understanding and view of this pandemic will be very interesting, reeling in the years will be a cracker anyway.

    I hope you are correct and the whack-a-mole approach using the vaccine as the hammer will become more nuanced and targeted.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭growleaves


    First they came for the hamsters and I was like "Wait, are these hamsters unvaccinated?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Just 2 more months..

    Oh its almost March 31st? Yeah, well, incase a new variant comes along, we should review in another 2 months..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Green Pass / vaccine passport concept is no longer relevant in the Omicron era and should be phased out (he expects it to be in short order in Israel)


    On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:

    You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.


    On vaccine mandates:

    I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    From Irish Times

     

    The Cabinet may meet as early as Friday to approve the lifting of Covid-19 restrictions, which is likely to begin next week.

    While no meeting has been formally scheduled yet, it is understood that arrangements will be put in place quickly if advice from the National Public Health Emergency Team (Nphet) on Thursday is favourable to a quick reopening.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    So, NPHET meeting Thursday, then a leaders meeting, "emergency" cabinet meeting Friday and MM wandering down the stairs to tell us at 6 what we already knew at 3.


    Sounds about right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,376 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    I don't expect normality till start of April, case numbers will plummet but will plateau at a number higher than pre Christmas

    Opening up in full prior to March 17th with a double bank holiday this year would produce the bender to end all benders, so I'd expect restrictions to remain, certainly not seeing nightclubs open this side of St Patricks day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Media now reporting both PCR and antigen tests together at just under 11.7K, of which 5,767 are PCR with nearly 6K in uploaded antigen tests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭Economics101


    I note that the Government Data hub reports only the PCR tests, which is the right thing to do. Adding on the antigen tests implies that each positive case is of equal significance as that for a PCR. This is misleading for a variety of reasons. If the media want a daily headline they should do (a) the daily PCR results, the 7-day moving average PCR positives and the 7-day positivity rate. This might actually have some meaning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    I just can’t see them letting them go when they have proven such a great coercion tool, I think they should be dropped for International travel and everyone travelling should be tested regardless of vax status.

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,722 ✭✭✭celt262




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    If someone gets a positive antigen, uploads the data and then goes for a confirmatory PCR are we not then double counting cases?

    Or if I do two antigen tests on consecutive days and upload both, is that possible?

    The only metric we should be looking at now is the hospital numbers. Forget daily case numbers now, do them weekly if needs be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Why are antigen test results of less significant that they can be discounted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Fantastic stuff

    Get rid of it for international travel within Europe next hopefully in time for summer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    PCR tests once they've checked and duplicates removed have been standard data since March 2020. It's not clear whether these antigen tests undergo the same level of analysis or really what they show but they do at least offer some disease prevalence information.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    So in your view a positive antigen result is of little value and should not count in the daily figures?

    I was under the impression that under 40s are being encouraged to do antigen only in order to free up PCR capacity



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Not what I said at all but you've clearly decided I did. The PCR process is clear and maintains a "chain of evidence" but how this antigen test uploaded data works is not clear. My guess is that it's for very general tracking especially as we can't see what positivity levels are at work to compare with PCR. TBH the positivity is all that matters out of any of the case numbers now but if you have information on the antigen test process please share so that we can all learn.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I'm almost afraid to hope that the Government will actually do what they're kite flying about this week, it would be fantastic. If Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil and Greens lift the Covid Cert requirement domestically as they should due to what's happened with the arrival of Omicron, they'll get my vote and many others votes back. March 31st a long time to wait, and if there's one thing we've all learned from Covid is to make hay while the sun shines. We'll be ok now until Autumn, time to maximise that and organise a proper health strategy for the vulnerable next winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭ganoga


    to me, 31st of March is meaningless. Just like 18th of October. Can't believe a word from them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    Keep in mind that it was only two weeks ago that MM told the press that boosters would be required for the domestic covid passport “in the fullness of time.” Trusting these people after two years of being jerked around should be nearly impossible. Voting for them again… I can’t really understand how the same parties who implemented divisive legislation removing said legislation makes them suddenly electable again. It’s like trusting a feral dog whose already spent quite a while gnawing on your leg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭Economics101


    For a start we don't really know how many people with positive antigen tests might fail to report them; also we don't know the positivity rate. and finally there is the possibility of double-counting referred to in an earlier post.

    You can't really add apples and oranges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    In addition, on Monday 17 January,

    5,916* *

    people registered a positive antigen test through the HSE portal.


    * * These data are provisional and are not directly comparable with laboratory PCR confirmed SARS-CoV-2 cases registered through the HSE Covid Care Tracker.

    Statement from the National Public Health Emergency Team - Tuesday 18 January

    And they even tweet that in the thread reporting the cases

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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    Lots of people are walking around with Covid leading normal lives, they are not bothering to register positive cases because they have no symptoms and refuse to lose a days wage.


    Its finally over, thank God.


    Open up NOW!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,753 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    You get more microphones in your face with drip feeding.

    As you said it's a game for them



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    “This pandemic is nowhere near over and with the incredible growth of omicron globally, new variants are likely to emerge, which is why tracking and assessment remain critical,” Tedros said.

    WHO says omicron won’t be last Covid variant as global cases surge by 20% in a week

    Van Kerkhove said now is not the time to relax public health measures, such as masks and physical distancing. She called on governments to strengthen those measures to bring the virus under better control and head off future waves of infection as new variants emerge.

    “If we don’t do this now, we will move on to the next crisis,” Van Kerkhove said. “And we need to end the crisis that we are currently in and we can do that at the present time. So don’t abandon the science. Don’t abandon the strategies that are working, that are keeping us and our loved ones safe,” she said.

    Van Kerkhove called on governments to invest more in surveillance systems to track the virus as it mutates. “This won’t be the last variant of concern,” she said.

    Hoping NPHET and our gov is not listening to them?

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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