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Is replacing Immersion Heater element necessary if central heating always done by oil?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Bita_dis_bita_dat


    Folks, thanks for all the replies and effort to solve this!

    I'm fairly confident immersion is not the issue and indeed was a red herring as someone suggested XD. Its completely removed from the equation now.

    If I'm understanding you correctly this is the next step I'm attempting but stuck on. I want to switch the MCB with an MCB that appears to be working fine (has never tripped). The problem I'm facing having taken off the fuse board case is that it's wired in an old-school fashion I presume - different from my understanding of modern fuses boards. You can check it out in my other post here - https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058227277/what-is-this-style-of-mcb-called-see-attached-image#latest .

    All the MCBs are sitting on a copper(?) bar with prongs that they're all wired to. Seems to take one MCB off I either have to bend that bar down so the prong is removed from under the MCB or remove bar from the board itself, OR there's a sound method of removing an MCB from this setup where you can lift it up off the prongs. Either way, I'm having a problem searching a solution online.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    You're not going to like my reply, the simple answer to your issue is that if you don't know enough about a switch panel that's about 30 years old, you shouldn't be in there, and that's without the specific legal implications of modern regulations that are a lot more restrictive than they used to be, in order to protect people from dangerous changes done by "mates" to help out.

    In situations like this, the internet is NOT your friend, as there are way too many supposed guides on how to do things that are fundamentally dangerous, because they are not specific to a manufacturer, or system, and using a guide for another make or system can result in a dangerous result, the copper bar you mention is indeed a distributor, and in the wrong circumstances, it can be live when you don't expect it to be, so if you are not 100% sure of what you're working with, then the ONLY safe route is an electrician that's approved to do the work you need done.

    I'm not a registered electrician, but I know more than enough about what's involved, because i had to do similar, and more complex, back when the regulations didn't exist, and I wired my own house in the UK back in the 70's, among other things, and in those times, there was no self certification, it had to be signed off by the electricity supply company before it could be connected, and there was no flexibility with them.

    Please, for your own safety, get some professional help in to resolve this, it's not a run of the mill fault, so it needs to be accurately diagnosed with specialised test equipment that will be able to isolate the faulty item or wire, and make sure that the repair is good.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,436 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I'm a retired electrician, OP you need an experienced registered electrician .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Curious how you got hot water in the summer as oil boilers were very hot in heating the rads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    That is just advise and best practice not regulation... there are strict regulation enforced for now builds and so there should be... tjhere is no regulation for this... just a competent person... i am a qualified electrician but did career change...



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    MOD NOTE: YOU NEED TO DROP THIS INSISTENCE THAT DOING ALL THE ABOVE WORK IS LEGAL IN YOUR OWN HOME.

    IF YOU PERSIST, I'LL TAKE MORE SEVERE ACTION AGAINST YOU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭dathi


    a statutory instrument is the legislation that sets out the law, if you had bothered to google Statutory Instruments, S.I. No. 264 of 2013, that was mentioned in the article you would have seen that restrictive electrical works is against the law



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    This thread has now run its course and had things clarified.

    OP, if you want it reopened, just drop me a PM



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