Djokovic

growleaves · 12-01-2022 12:25PM

It's now confirmed Djokovic admits he made a number of errors of judgement and messed up the process.

I'd guess the Aus government are withholding a decision to let this information 'bleed out' and influence public perception.

Don't see how he can play now.

Peregrinus · 12-01-2022 12:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460233#Comment_118460233

The Australian authorities don't care who filled out the form, or whether any false information was included dishonestly or just carelessly. They just care about whether the information is correct or false. Damage to Djokovic's public reputation may be limited by blaming the hired help but, from a legal point of view, that's irrelevant.

The Phantom Jipper · 12-01-2022 12:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460083#Comment_118460083

Many of these people he met may not have been vaccinated, why would you assume they were? They would all have had the reasonable expectation that he didn't have covid, yet he did and decided to meet them anyway knowing he was infected. This only appears to have come out through the press so he didn't even have the decency to let all these people know that he may have infected them and for them to protect themselves and their families accordingly.

jmayo · 12-01-2022 12:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118459374#Comment_118459374

If the government don't have him turfed out then all the efforts to keep people on board with restrictions will be difficult.

They now also have issue where he lied on immigration forms, the old excuse about someone else filling it out can't fly or it makes a total laugh out of their immigration service and rules.

Also the tournament organisers should at this stage beg for him to be turfed out or the tournament will turn into a shyte show with his supporters rioting with pro lockdown/pro vaccine and anti Serb opponents.

jj880 · 12-01-2022 01:02PM

https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1480860331270283264

Some straight talking here. Well done Channel 7. 😂

growleaves · 12-01-2022 01:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460561#Comment_118460561

There wouldn't be riots at a tennis tournament over covid restrictions you're dreaming

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 01:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118459009#Comment_118459009

Therein lies the rub. People who don't wish to get a vaccine aren't inconveniencing themselves. It's the people who put the restrictions in place who are inconveniencing them. If the majority of the world choose to get vaccinated then why the need to make them prove that they have done so and why the need to make life difficult for those who choose not to get a vaccine? Couldn't governments just come out and say "this covid is some bad sh!t. We recommend you get a vaccine" and leave it at that?

jmayo · 12-01-2022 01:22PM

There appeared to be no danger up until yesterday at least of sponsors pulling the plug, but I wonder will Hublot's LVMH parent want to be associated with him?

And then what about Lacoste or Peugeot ?

It has probably worked out conveniently for Australia's ANZ Bank and Jacob's Creek that their deals have expired.

Can't see an Australian company want to be associated with him now.

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 01:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118459451#Comment_118459451

Wow. You remind me of that woman in the supermarket in Stephen King's "The Mist".

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 01:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460190#Comment_118460190

That's some serious gymnastics right there.

breezy1985 · 12-01-2022 01:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460713#Comment_118460713

No it's not even in the slightest. The hospitals are clogged with Covid cases which a disproportionate amount of are not vaccinated which is leading to elective surgery and procedures being cancelled.

Being vaccinated massively reduces the chance of ending up in ICU

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 01:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460476#Comment_118460476

He could have been vaccinated and still passed on covid to the unvaccinated. You don't seem to be putting much thought into the absurdity of the whole debate. People say the unvaccinated are selfish because they are putting other people's lives at risk. Well if you are vaccinated you should have nothing to fear from an unvaccinated person, no? But if unvaccinated people are at risk from an unvaccinated person then are they not also at risk from a vaccinated person? You can be on your 4th booster jab and still come down hard with this sh1t and spread it around. Kind of begs the question "what's the point of a vaccine if you continue to get sick?" Of course people will tie themselves in knots trying to justify it without questioning the stupidity of the whole thing. So you are completely vaccinated and sick as a dog and you can go into a bar or restaurant. Conversely you can be unvaccinated, healthy but can't go in. I've asked this question before. So what's really is the point of vaccine checks to go to a pub if vaccinated people can be completely contagious? It makes zero sense. And when you bring up this complete absurdity people shoot back with the"taking up a hospital bed" bullcrap.

Tippex · 12-01-2022 01:37PM

Djokovic is a class A tool. Incredible tennis player but he should not be dealt with any differently just because of who he is from any normal joe soap. He lied on his forms so should be refused entry for that as would happen to anyone else.

One thing that is intriguing me is if he has openly lied on the forms as has now come out what is to say that he has not been lying all along even now with regards to being positive back in December. Could he be doubling down knowing that if he has "recovered" there is a chance of being allowed in unvaxxed as he will have a level of immunity but if he did not have covid there was 0 chance of a medical exemption hence when he attended the events and the interview he did so as he was not positive at all and was not breaking any rules?

bertiebomber · 12-01-2022 01:40PM

there seems to be slight wind down / pull back in all countries in the last few days, i have a feeling the aussies will let him play and then they will free up their citizens as they have been too strict and they are so far gone its hard to turn back. This episode may be the catalyst for them not to lose face and wind down some of the draconian measures they had to endure. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. if this happens he will in affect have helped the aussies of course they wont see it that way .

jmayo · 12-01-2022 01:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460590#Comment_118460590

Ok don't expect soccer style riots, but I do think it can get nasty, and that is not something one expects at a tennis tournament.

All it takes is for some Croats to turn up to stir the shyte.

Also expect boos and jeers from Aussies p**sed off that Novak is allowed enter the country never mind play.

Then if the Djokovic's fans boys and girls start up the Aussies won't be long letting their feeling be known.

ASOT · 12-01-2022 01:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460829#Comment_118460829

He's not Croatian.

12-01-2022 01:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118459838#Comment_118459838

Do you know why organisations such as the MHRA/HPRA/EMA were set up? it was in the after math of the thalidomide scandal. It was to make sure medication was safe for people. That appropriate research was completed so that any medicines for humans were safe and effective. The Pfizer vaccine is safe and effective medication. We are talking facts here, not emotions.

Also, you may not know this but thalodomide/ lenalidomide has a place in modern medicine and is still used widely.

jmayo · 12-01-2022 01:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460788#Comment_118460788

"Whats the point of the vaccine if you continue to get sick"

Are you for fooking real ?

It can stop you getting really really sick requiring the need for hospitalisation or intensive care, because your immune system and body has built up some immunity to it.

And get this little fooking nugget, it can ultimately stop you dying.

And you are not supposed to go anywhere if you are sick as a dog and have had a positive covid test.

You must think you are the world's No.1 tennis player or something. 🙄

I read story about a guy from England, who was extremely fit due to mountain climbing and doing triathlons, etc.

He refused vaccine and pedaled all types of conspiracy lunacy to family and friends.

He ended up in ICU and dying.

Personally I think it was a waste of fooking resources.

If you are so entrenched that you don't mind flying in the face of scientific evidence and putting others at risk, then fook you.

growleaves · 12-01-2022 02:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460909#Comment_118460909

Yes I saw that too. One fit 43-year old unvax'd mountain climber died of covid.

This outlier doesn't tell us much about whether fit young healthy people are at great risk or not (they aren't).

bertiebomber · 12-01-2022 02:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460909#Comment_118460909

Correct and thank you . If a person chooses not to vaccinate than they can die that is their choice and we all have to die sometime so whats the issue? let the un vaxed take the risk the triple, & soon quadruple vaxxed are safe so let us all live our lives. This extension of life well into the 100's is rubbish who can do anything when they are 100 years old bar blow a candle out on the news and then keel over from the strain. We are living too long we should die naturally and make way for the youth . I personally would be quite happy to go in my 70's as the world is mad and bad and peoples attitudes are selfish and angry and aggressive. At 70 ill be done being here.

mickdw · 12-01-2022 02:16PM

I don't know why the Aussies are dragging this out. They are known for their strict border control. He has now admitted to making the false declaration re his travel movements prior to entering Australia so he should be out.

The Phantom Jipper · 12-01-2022 02:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460788#Comment_118460788

Utter dreck. The fact he could have been vaccinated and still gotten covid is irrelevant. The issue is that he knew he was infected and still showed up anyway.

Shelga · 12-01-2022 02:34PM

Surely this goes beyond the vaccine issue now! He lied on his entry forms- surely this is a completely black and white case now!

Unless people who think this is all a fuss about nothing think people who lie on their entry forms to Ireland should be just waved on through.

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 02:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460746#Comment_118460746

So what you and others are saying is that Djokovich is a selfish bastard because he put other people's lives at risk, not because he could have passed on the covid virus to them but because he could get sick and take up a hospital bed and require treatment and take away resources from other people or cause the cancellation of their needed procedures, yes?

extra gravy · 12-01-2022 02:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460909#Comment_118460909

Honestly, some people could do with getting a good dose of it and ending up in ICU, it would soon soften their cough. The continued stupidity, selfishness and lack of knowledge around vaccines two years into this is depressing.

breezy1985 · 12-01-2022 02:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461240#Comment_118461240

I didn't mention Djokovic or call anyone a bstrd.

I just pointed out how the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated in other ways than just giving them Covid.

As for what others are saying I could not give a FK and will let them speak for themselves as I am not others

breezy1985 · 12-01-2022 02:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461242#Comment_118461242

It would probably do the opposite of soften their cough 😉

BurgerFace · 12-01-2022 02:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118460909#Comment_118460909

So on one hand you are saying that you care about people and want them to get vaccinated for their own good and then on the other hand you want them vaccinated so they don't get sick and interrupt care that you think you are more entitled to?

12-01-2022 02:53PM

breezy1985 · 12-01-2022 03:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118461330#Comment_118461330

I like how you are not even pretending to talk about the guy who cheated border patrol at this stage.

Just a headlong drive to make this a CT thread now

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