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Djokovic

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  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How could you even type that if you actually knew even the most basic first thing about tennis?

    You don't even know who multiple grand-slam winner Ash Barty is by calling some nobody plodder Gadecki the Australian women's number one

    Barty is not just the Australian number one, she is the number one ranked women's player in the world!

    🤣🤣🤣




  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In terms of the discussion at hand he's done nothing wrong. If he's murdered 10 people last year it's off topic. This is 100% on the Australian government and their farcical treatment of this. If the Irish government grants asylum to a known serial killer and gives him a job teaching primary school kids, then the discussion isn't around how he's such a terrible person, it's around the failure of the Irish government ! Similar here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,940 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well I wouldn't call them names, I just pity them, they obviously are of low intellect and easily made believe stupid things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭KieferFan69


    Brilliant that the judge saw sense on this and didn’t submit to the legions of pitchforkers and hypochondriacs. People will look back in a few years and wonder what were we like!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,365 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    So now it looks like Djokovic didn't lie on any travel form as he never filled a form out. Tennis Australia filled out Djokovic's form for him! Not Djok or an agent, but Tennis Australia.

    He's going to get kicked out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,670 ✭✭✭jj880


    In my opinion he should be made leave Australia.

    I think I might have watched 1 match of the Australian open when Federer was at his peak. Im no big tennis fan but if Djokovic is allowed to stay and play I will definitely be watching. What that says about me Im not sure.

    The media coverage around this balls up will ensure top viewing figures. This will be factored into the decision to let him stay. People might not like that but its true. Lobbyists testifying their faces off behind closed doors. Things have gotten ridiculous around covid, antivaxxers, special treatment and the media are having feeding frenzy. Turns out 100 turned up for lockdown drinks with Boris at Downing Street at the height of lockdown in May 2020. Chancers who think the rules dont apply to them everwhere you look.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,755 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Do you have a link to that?

    Anything I read has said his agent filled it out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,755 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I don't follow woman's tennis...I never said I did. The point still stands.

    Djokovic and his team clearly looking for a positive test to get him in. Others who aren't vaxxed did the decent thing and skipped it.

    I won't be engaging with you any further, added to ignore, you and your stupid begging bowl signature surprised that is allowed on boards.ie but hey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭eddie73


    Pure speculation. "Likely constantly testing" is an interesting turn of phrase



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,755 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Thanks for that, CNN usually pretty reliable, the plot thickens



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,755 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    It was excellent and extremely helpful timing then? You can't deny that surely?

    But it has back fired massively, pictured at events the following days after positive tests, form filled in (by someone incorrectly), his looney family being front and centre....

    He has seriously tarnished his reputation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    I watched the YouTube videos of the court hearing and it was really interesting to listen to them go back and forth.

    Lovely flow to the dialogue. They speak so well and debate so respectfully. The judge in particular conducted himself so well.

    I might look into cases like this a bit more or go down a wiki rabbit hole to see how the etiquette is established and maintained.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭BurgerFace


    There goes that cheap trick again. Trying to equate people who speak in defence of Djokovic with a mob who defend rapists and engage in blaming the victim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,755 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    haha.

    you don't have the first clue about or give a sh1t about tennis as you have proven with a mistake that even a small child wouldn't make

    being called out on that is fair play after all your bluster here

    you're just on a witch-hunt with some of the most pathetic fake moralising I've seen

    running off in a huff in abject embarrassment and "ignoring" is just proof of that!

    (as an aside on your other comment I provide a lot of advice on the laptops forum and if someone gets value from that considered advice on buying the right 500 euro to 3000 euro laptop purchase instead of making an expensive mistake sometimes they like to show a small token of appreciation

    https://www.boards.ie/categories/laptops?utm_source=sidebar_categories

    Boards make a bit of money now and again on their automatic affiliate link injection on the laptop links)

    meanwhile you really appear not to be any use to anyone, including yourself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    As someone else alluded to in the "relaxation of restrictions thread" that's the part that of this whole pandemic that should be under the most scrutiny.

    Not the fact that golf gate, the Merrion, RTE party or Boris's shin dig took place.

    It's the fact that the powers that be, who are getting the advice from the experts, are so un-afraid of this virus that they are happy to quaff Champagne arm in arm and gurn for selfies like Trudeau et al in Cornwall.

    People on here are lambasting Djokovic and the unvaxxed for not taking something seriously that those in authority are not taking seriously either.


    I have not taken up the option for a vaccination as of yet. I assure you I don't want anything bad to happen to myself, Id be first in line if I thought I was in danger.

    I also love my mammy and my granny and I don't want anything to happen to them. The are vaxxed and fair play to them.

    But don't piss on my neck and tell me it's raining.

    I will probably eventually acquiesce and get the jab because life will be so difficult to live normally but I will be getting jabbed for all the wrong reasons.

    Not because im in any danger, not because I think it will protect Nana, but because I want to go to Glastonbury or New York.

    It is a farce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,670 ✭✭✭jj880


    Thats a fair point and interesting point of view.

    If you are going to crack down on a virus to the point of overkill you cant have 1 rule for the plebs and another for those considered more important but that's the way it is. Shouldn't be but it is. With Djokovic it's rubbing people's noses in it. So blatant and public for everyone to see. If he stays a lot of people who were following all the rules for the good of their neighbours granny like you say wont give 2 shiny sh!ts anymore. Its a tough call.



  • Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Here's the thing, though, all of this faux outrage is all coming from the unvaxxed brigade. Nobody on the pro-vax side really gives a monkeys whether he's vaccinated or not. People take issue with someone who is using their fame and fortune to bypass the rules set down for everyone, they're not getting off on someone being refused permission to play tennis (at least almost everyone, you get nutjob outliers on either side of the debate). It's the anti-vax side who are lionising him as some sort of crusader against the tyranny of all things covid. Some vaccine martyr that they can worship.

    When in reality, he's a scumbag trying to circumvent the rules and he and his family are making things up as they go along, using everything in their power to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, including using the race card. That's what the issue is, not his stance on vaccines.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    A scumbag who donated thousands during the Australian bushfires good god shifty you don't really believe that do you. If so we have very differing views on what a scumbag is.



  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't really think all of what you say is true

    Quite a fair few here labelling Djokovic "anti-vaxx" and nothing else to their point

    This despite the fact that Djokovic has very much held back on saying anything about vaccines or his own status in public since real vaccines came out in 2021 for public availability

    He did say things in 2020 but realised his mistake

    Plenty of people just ignore that completely on what he has done since

    it's not as simple as they like to make out - he's actually a complex guy

    He arranged a free vaccine drive at the Serbian Open in 2021 and has donated nearly $7 million to Covid efforts.

    He actually just wants to have a choice

    I don't agree with him on vaccines but he really believes it. He has some fruity beliefs on other health aspects but then again if he has won 20 slams maybe he thinks there is something to them.

    Many thousands of other professional athletes want the same choice but weren't locked up with refugees like Djokovic just because he applied in good faith to a process (25 others applied to the same process)

    And if people are realistic then at the moment we know that vaccines do pretty much nothing for spread with Omicron. Current vaccines only provide severity reduction now (which is vital for older and at-risk people) but Djokovic is not going to be burdening a health service anywhere

    I'm actually pro-vaccine myself but also pro-Djokovic in the battle vs the politicians in Australia as if you actually inform yourself he and others actually only applied to the process that was there

    In that specific regard the Judge Anthony Kelly said "What more could this man have done"?

    The process itself certainly has issues but you have to look to the Australians there. Victoria State with Tennis Australia had a process in place that the Federal Government endorsed. The Federal Government flip-flopped on this due to what they saw was a chance to get political capital. But I'm glad that Djokovic made a stand here after following the process. He never would have gone near Australia otherwise and trying to humiliate him at the airport after he had travelled all the way out is bad.

    Djokovic has questions to answer about the test and his movements - it doesn't look good there but then again he hasn't personally been tackled on that but surely will be at any tournament press conferences - I don't think that his family want to answer for him there (his dad is a nutter obviously - Djokovic can't help that)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,970 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    he claimed on his visa application that he isolated after testing positive. Or rather somebody else claimed it on his behalf. we know he didn't isolate. To my mind that makes his visa invalid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    Have you seen some of the outrage in this thread about untaxed people. questioning their intellect, their character, calling them ratlickers etc.

    It is most unpleasant and intellectually dishonest of those that are doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Sometimes Glastonbury or New York has to be under threat for eejits to get a vaccine,so be it,it worked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    I think your point is very valid those over lords who told us in no uncertain terms didnt feel the same danger & fear themselves, why? and continued to do as the pleased that is the crux of the whole Covid pandemic. personally i do not know anyone who has had Covid or tested positive for it , I do however know my own parent is a zombie since she got her last ( booster ). She cant walk her dog or stand up long enough to cook her dinner she cant sleep and has brutal headaches every day she is breathless if she puts her tea towels on the clothesline./ This was a very vibrant and well able to go woman she cycled walked did her own shopping - now just wants to die as her life exhausting her and has no joy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    Oh I understand the tactic, but it is not how a society should work. I pay my taxes (higher rate since age 21) and im part of society.

    A negative test should suffice on the day if safety is the true goal.

    The option provided of "be vaxed or sling your hook" is not an option at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Live and let live is an apt choice of phrase, the whole point of the vaccine is to keep people living, and at the very least it stops unvaccinated people becoming bed blockers in the hospitals. For some reason people who rant about conspiracies or how Covid won't do them any harm always end up rushing to the hospital to the doctors they don't trust. Would it be live and let live if someone decided they didn't like keeping to the speed limit or wearing a seatbelt?

    I'm not in favour of forced vaccination, but that doesn't mean they should get to mix in freely with society again when they weren't willing to lift a finger for the common good. Yes, the majority are vaccinated, but that doesn't make people who pussy out of a jab some kind of rebel hero. Just get the vaccine if you can and do your bit, it's not asking for much.

    But people can carry on with the conspiracy shite if they want to, what would doctors know anyway, right?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    Ones own bodily autonomy should not be lost because of historical government mismanagement.

    You say get vaxxed to not block beds. I say get more beds.

    Last year I heard people saying "no one has the divine right to pint so if you want to have one then get vaxxed and you can come into the pub"

    Au Contraire , If no one has a divine right to a pint, then a vaxxed person's desire to have a pint shouldn't trump the punter beside hims bodily autonomy. You have had your jab and mitigated against catching it. Pipe down and drink your pint or stay at home.

    You get to bring two things with you into the grave, your body and your reputation.

    No one should get to meddle or pressure you into putting anything into your body.

    Pretending the unvaxxed have a fair "choice" is just totally dishonest. They have been shafted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    that's awful Bertie i hope she recovers fully we all have mothers



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