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Question about what console to get

  • 07-01-2022 8:52pm
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    I am a very on-again, off-again gamer, having had various consoles down through the years right back as far as the PS1 the original Xbox.

    I play very rarely, as in I might play solid for a week, every evening for a few hours and then not play again for many months. The last console I had was a Xbox 360 which I only dumped a few months ago so I'm looking to get something new and I'm looking at the Xbox series X or the PS5.

    I am not into playing multiplayer games and prefer to play alone with stuff along the lines of Bioshock, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed etc.

    Just wondering if I could get some advice as to which console might be the better option or will it make any difference?

    Also, whats availability like these days for these consoles?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Having had the PS5 since launch, and the XSX for a month, going on the fact that you don't want multiplayer and prefer single player games, I find it hard not to recommend the XSX simply because of Gamepass. Even a Series S with Gamepass is excellent if the best visuals are not important, simply because of the value you get. You'll miss on on Sony Exclusives (unless you also game on PC, Sony eventually throws the scraps to the PC players), but if that doesn't bother you, the XSS or XSX if you want the extra oomph and physical disc features. Oh, and I believe UBisoft+ is coming to Xbox so you get the Ubi games now too (Tom Clancy, Assassins Creed, Riders Republic, Watch_Dogs, etc) but I'd also imagine it's like EA where you need the Gamespass Ultimate for inclusion, otherwise it's a monthly/yearly fee.

    Saying that, I still prefer the PS5 because I feel that it's a next step forward, instead of just moar powa as MS have done. Some people don't like it or don't feel the difference, but I think the DualSense is a genuine step forward and when used properly adds an extra level of immersion, games like Astro, Returnalt, R&C all make excellent use of it, and I can only see it getting better as more developers get used to it. Plus it looks like it may be the only console VR available once PSVR2 comes out, and that looks beefy too.

    Finally, PS5 is still harder to get. People are walking into store picking up the XSS for a while, XSX for the last couple of months or thereabouts (I believe), but PS5's are still a bit harder to get. Personally, XSS/XSX feel like really powerful consoles (in comparison to previous gens), whereas I feel the PS5 is trying to make a genuine step forward, and it's power is yet untapped.

  • At this point I wouldn't consider a Series S, the extra 200 for the X is worth it for the extra power but more importantly the extra storage. With the size of games these days 500gb minus system overheads is not a lot if you are going to hopping between a lot of games with gamepass.

    PS5 has arguably better exclusives in terms of single player games certainly to me, but 3 of those game will set you back about the same as 3 years worth of gamepass ultimate if you buy it right, so if you are playing on and off that would be a way to go with a huge library of games ready to go. Don't like the game? drop it and play something else.

    There are the Dragon Age games there , and the remasters of the mass effect games. If you liked BioShock you might like stuff like Dishonored.

    The list of whats currently in Gamepass is here

    I loved the Forza Horizon games, and I wouldn't usually bother with a racing game.

    Gears of War is up to it's 5th game now and that's there too along with all of Microsofts 1st party titles and I think pretty much all of Bethesda's since <S bought them.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Much appreciate the info folks, a lot of good stuff there.

    From what ye are saying, it sounds like an Xbox Series X, with a gamepass might suit me best. I just spent a few mins reading up about the gamepass and it sounds like it allows me the option of dipping in and paying for a month or two, d/l'ing a few games, play away and then cancel until I feel the urge to play again. As I understand it I wouldn't have access to those games when I stop the gamepass unless I bought them outright but that wouldn't bother me too much due to the frequency I'd be using the console.

  • Game Pass is the future.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭Grumpypants

    If you get 3 years worth of Xbox gold ( can be picked up for under 150. Then sign up for game pass it will convert 1-1. So you get 3 years of game pass for 150 instead of 450.

    You can also stream games to the console to save downloading or updating. Handy if you just want to test something out. You can stream to your phone too. I was playing Halo infinite in bed on my phone last night.

    With Game pass you can even stream to the older Xbox one X. If you can get one cheap. The game still runs on a series X in the cloud so you get Gen 5 games on a gen 4 console.

    But be mindful the Series S is newer and only 300 euro. So unless the Xbox one X was under 200 it wouldn't make sense.

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  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]

    On again off again gamer here too. All the way back to Spectrum 48K, my little rubber keyed goddess. After PS2 I lost interest in console gaming because gaming on a screen in 2D can only take you so far in terms of immersion. Got a PS4 a couple of years ago and used it intermittently, mostly for watching netflix.

    After all that... I got an oculus quest 2 a few weeks ago. Now I am playing table tennis every day, boxing my way to health and world glory, jet packing around til my legs go wobbly, visiting the deep sea and outer space in 3D 360 etc etc Completely immersive and an entirely new experience, ideal for the jaded or on again off again gamer IMO.

    tl;dr consoles are so 20th century.. get a vr set. :)

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭recyclops

    I have found that my recommendation of the series X with game pass has gone down well with friends and family and a fair few have jumped ship from other consoles and not looked back.

    Having a zelda, last of us etc every 3/4 years just isn't worth sticking to one console or the other and gamepass has opened most up to different genres etc that they now give a go at because its risk free, the other series they like they pick up and game spending has dramatically decreased for some.

    As an owner of all consoles its a no brainer for anyone to go series X now until Sony/Nintendo get their finger out and stop fiddling about with fancy buttons and handhelds. They will eventually do it put track record so far on both has proven it won't be a patch on gamepass.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭Grumpypants

    PS5 does come with a bunch of free PS4 games. All belters.

    Batman: Arkham Knight

    Battlefield 1


    Call of Duty Black Ops III Zombies Chronicles

    Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy

    Days Gone

    Detroit: Become Human

    Fallout 4

    Final Fantasy XV

    God of War

    inFAMOUS: Second Son

    The Last Guardian

    The Last of Us Remastered

    Monster Hunter: World

    Mortal Kombat X

    Persona 5

    Ratchet & Clank

    Resident Evil 7: Biohazard

    Uncharted 4: A Thief's End

    Until Dawn

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,778 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm

    Those aren't free games, you need plus to access them and that's €60.

    Edit: already pointed out above.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    60 quid for 20 excellent games plus all the other games you get throughout the year, makes no sense not to get Plus. Would everyone still say Gamespass is excellent if they all paid full price for it? It's the same as Now/Plus/Netflix/Prime, once you've played the games/watched all the shows you're interested in, it becomes just another service you pay for. Yeah, games day 1 is a big draw, but not all day 1 games are good. It is good value, but I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can't see it being financially viable in the long run.

    Will be interesting to see how Spartacus holds up to it, but I think Sony have already confirmed no day 1 games will be included, which reinforced my belief that a Gamepass service, in its current form, isn't financially viable. Sony have been at it a bit longer than MS, and haven't had the huge resources of money to just throw at the problems. But they've always more or less won (PS3 is debatable, but it did outsell the 360 so....), and I truly believe that PlayStation want to evolve gaming, whereas MS are just "MOAR POWAR!!!! GIVE US MONEHS!"

  • I have a feeling that Microsoft know a thing or two when it comes to making money... just a hunch.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib

    Do you need to get a ps5 or xbox series if you are only popping in and out? Both consoles are still painfully difficult to come by in the shops. Would the older gen console scratch that itch? I reckon there may be a few stuck up in the attic of your gamer friends that you could get for next to nothing.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    They're certainly quite good at buying out competition anyway...

  • Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Tech_Head

    Have experience of both and would recommend the Xbox over the PS5.

    Gamepass will be the major decider. There’s a few other perks like streaming games but it doesn’t sound like you’ll need it. You won’t need this right now but Microsoft (currently) doesn’t charge to upgrade the visuals / performance of games and Sony does. Feels like a bit of a cash grab from Sony

    The DualSense is nice and you will notice it’s extra features when playing a PS5 game. That being said, you won’t miss them when playing an Xbox game.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,303 ✭✭✭recyclops

    Thats the key as nice as the dual sense is you dont miss it, except the big giant map button I do miss that, my friend was talking about touch pad but at the end of the day its a big giant map button and it always will be

  • Registered Users Posts: 384 ✭✭Dublinandy3

    Before the series X I was retro all the way, still am and own most of the old consoles from 8 bit upwards.

    However, at the start of last year I got the Series X and it's just amazing, especially with Gamepass.

    Probably because I'm getting on in life I never play multiplayer, and the Gamepass games suit for that. Someone earlier in the thread said would Gamepass still be good if you paid the full price. Well I was too lazy to do what was needed to get the discount so have been paying full price for 12 months now and don't regret it, I'd probably happily pay more.

    What's also great is that you can play the majority of the games on your mobile too without downloading via the cloud. So if you're stuck somewhere or someone is watching something on the tv you can still pick your phone up and have a little game.

    For me the series x with Gamepass is just the pinnacle at the moment.

  • And quite good at making money. One of the best companies in the world at making money. The second richest company in the world, when measured by market capitalisation.

    In the very least, I'd say they know what they're doing. Probably more than you or I do.

  • And some say only Sony are interested in "evolving gaming". I think GamePass is the biggest evolution in years!

  • Registered Users Posts: 26,778 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm

    And I think Microsoft know something about Subscription Services. They're basically moving everything over to one because guaranteed monthly income trumps and hoc income.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Yeah I thought about doing, even looked at the price of a few secondhand ones.

    Ultimately I decided against it. The price doesn't bother me a whole lot as I'm more interested in longevity. The main reason I chucked the 360 was because it was getting more and more difficult to source games for it.

    If I go for latest gen ahead of last gen then there's a better chance of still getting the same level of service (game availability / releases) 10-15 years from now.

    From that perspective, it makes more sense to me to spend the extra now.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon

    Something you may not have looked into is the Google Stadia. Much cheaper than the other 2, obviously not as many games but still a fairly large catalogue. I have one aswell as the ps5(and a switch) and in fairness, it has gotten a bit of usage since I got it before Christmas.

  • I don't know much about it, but I keep hearing that it's "on the way out". Is there any truth to that?

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭DeSelby83

    Very debatable if it's on its way out. It's 2 years old and number of games in increasing....but it's Google so who knows.

    You can sign up and try it out on a browser, it has some free to play games like destiny that you could test out for your connection etc.

    I think if you click on the link below you should skip the "sign up for a free month of Stadia Pro"

  • Administrators Posts: 52,704 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec

    Stadia would be a cheaper up front cost but Xbox with Gamepass will give you waaaaay more.

    Gamepass is the best bang for buck out there right now.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon

    I got it just before Christmas for €22. Managed to get 6 months of their subscription for free too so you won't find me complaining.

    It's handy for work, I have it installed on my tablet so just bring that and the controller with me for quiet evenings.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Ah, but what percentage of Microsoft is the Xbox division. If we're going to include all of MS, then we need to also include all of Sony. The only figure I can find, is that Xbox, Windows and Surface is 29% of revenue, and Windows is a massive one so... Look, they obviously know how to make money, usually by having the ability to spend a crap tonne to make it work/buy out competition. I'm pretty sure I also read today that Phil said that transaction sales are also around to stay:

    "Transaction is bigger than subscription", he says. "Subscription is growing faster, just because it's relatively new. And with Game Pass, we were one of the first movers in that space. But the transaction business is very large. We still sell physical discs." So in his own words, while it's growing, it won't replace transactions.

    It's a personal feeling, but I feel Sony are interested in innovation and progress, MS just want to make money, and do so by throwing loads of it at stuff until some sticks. I still can't see Day 1 games on Gamepass being viable, unless there is little competition and everyone has Gamepass, which won't happen.

    Also, I do miss the DualSense when playing on the XSX. It's very different, the haptics are leagues ahead of the rumble imo. I tried out Rocket League on both, and even though RL doesn't have official DS support, it still felt better than the XSX controller. More natural, and this will decide which system I play games on. If a game is releasing on both, I will get the PS5 version. But it's all personal preference, and a lot of people decide with cost rather than preference imo.

    I still think XSX and Gamepass is the best value right now, I just think the PS5 is better overall due to the DualSense, the upcoming PSVR2 and what feels like a genuine attempt to make games more immersive.

  • So Microsoft don't know how to make money? My point is refuted I guess.

    I play my Series X every day almost while my poor old ps5 and it's €80-90 games gathers dust. The controller is cool though. 👍

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,574 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Jesus, it's just an opinion people!

    But yes, the DualSense is amazing.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭DeSelby83

    Personal preference but I really dislike rumble in my games on all consoles so the dual sense is just a gimmick to me. I think quick resume is far more innovative and next gen feeling. But I'm sure both consoles and their features will start to meet in the middle as the generation goes on.

    Going back to the original point I'd say get a series S and gamepass.