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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sammy2012




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Age 20-39: This group makes up 32.6% of the vaccinated adult population, and 62.4% of the unvaccinated adult population.

    I'd hazard a guess, that there is more people 60+ & fully vaccinated in ICU, than there is people in ICU from the above demographic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Not a hope would I work even an hour in a freezing office to stop me getting that tiny sniffle that I wouldnt have noticed only for an antigen test.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Not even in 1960 was our classroom so cold that we needed a scarf and gloves

    I went to a small rural school for a few months and we had a roaring fire with a guard on it to keep warm

    I went to a city school too and at no stage were we cold or asked to put on extra layers

    Ridiculous nonsense to think its ok to have kids freezing in a classroom and try to learn as they shiver



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    So when you said "reinfection with the same variant is highly unlikely" is that an opinion or is that bit at least fact?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,907 ✭✭✭User1998


    So you want teachers to keep windows and doors open in class rooms full of kids when it’s literally snowing outside. To stop the spread of a virus which is no more than a cold.

    Who are we trying to protect here? The kids, who are now eligible for a vaccine, who won’t end up in hospital or ICU, or the triple vaccinated teachers, who, surprise surprise, won’t end up in ICU either, and have an absolute minuscule chance of landing in hospital, even if they are vulnerable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    The relationship many have with their governments at this stage is comparable to someone being afraid to leave their abusive partner. They know they should but feel like their not good enough, not able to take care of themselves or their children due to two years of manipulating and directions.

    People have been broken by egotistical politicians and the media narrative.

    Too afraid to meet their friends without the abusive partner telling them it’s ok to do so

    Please leave the bully people. You will be fine on your own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Well I’m not a virologist so of course it opinion. One arrived at by reading the opinions of people more knowledgeable than me.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    But I mean you could relay facts from a field you're not an expert in?

    A quick google seems to throw up that reinfection is more likely with omicron? But the articles seem out of date.

    A link to the info that brought you to "reinfection with the same variant is highly unlikely" would be great.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Can’t see certs being discarded in 2022. I expect if there is not a significant covid spike next winter than we will look at discarding them in spring 2023. I expect that will be a Europe wide approach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭cheezums


    Jesus this thread got nasty quick. Open windows is a stupid rule but teachers dont deserve to be bullied and insulted over it. They're just trying to follow guidance as best they can. Some lads here would want a good hard look at themselves to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    We're trying to protect a section of society that won't admit that they've been taken for a ride for the last 2 years. They'd rather double down on the restrictions they want to believe in, all the time moving further and further from being critical or questioning wtf they are actually do.

    Now its great to see over the last 3 weeks the vast majority are moving on, including the government 🤞🏼, but there is still a sizable vocal minority with some sway trying very hard to contuine and even introduce further nonsensical restrictions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    The stuff I’ve come across in the past was in relation to the reinfection with the same variant. It seems it’s too soon to know if omicron will reinfect and how soon it will reinfect.

    I can’t go looking for these articles now as I have to take off my gloves to text and it’s fecking freezing…….and I’m supposed to be paying attention to a load of 9 yr olds who all think they are Ronaldo!!!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭prunudo


    My biggest fear is that if/should a more deadly variant appears in a few months time we will look back at this omicron period like we do to summer 2020/2021 and realise we should have capitolised on low hospitalisations and relaxed restrictions sooner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The CSO analysis from November had the mean age (where vaccination status was declared) about a decade younger for unvaccinated vs. vaccinated, this would have been pre-booster effects though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I think it was that reinfection with Omicron if you had a previous variant was high rather than same variant to same variant reinfection.

    Reinfections are also really difficult to verify.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,293 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    While I agree he is a weasel and a dangerous one at that I wouldnt wish that crowd on anyone not even on the French.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I think that Brendan O'Connor is the only RTE broadcaster who has held a balanced, reasoned and calm discussion about Covid throughout the pandemic. No drama, no hysterics, no fear mongering - just good open discussion.

    It's also clear that the narrative is changing and we will see a change in policy soon after the mild Omicron wave subsides. We need to ensure that we do reclaim as much normality as possible after 2 years of chaos. As one of Brendan's guests said; its must easier to drive in than reverse out.

    Day 2 of Omicron myself. 2nd positive Antigen. Feel less tired today and slept like a baby - sore/tight throat remains and swallowing is a pain but Nurofen Plus quickly takes care of the headache. No other symptoms yet. I find mince pies help too! 😊

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This comparison is striking. Amazing really and really shows the difference with Omicron.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    "an added danger".

    Would you ever stop and listen to yourself. Grown men and women talking about the "danger" of a teacher closing a window because the kids are cold.

    Imagine being an adult and saying that with a straight face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,719 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The vast majority of people I know who are doing home delivery now either always did or are doing because they have Covid or have to isolate.

    Back in March 2020 lots of elderly and vunerable had there shopping delivered due to the fear of Covid but from what I can see these people are back our shopping, going for coffee, visiting family because they are full vaccinated and they don't feel they can't do much more now seeing there fully vaccinated and they want to get on and enjoy life.

    People don't seem overly concerned about the latest strain at all really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭ceegee


    There are about 1.02 million vaccinated 60+, and between 10000-13000 unvaccinated (allowing for rounding of hse vaccination %s)

    If the people in ICU are primarily over 60, and roughly evenly split between vaxxed and unvaxxed, then the unvaccinated over 60s are ending up in ICU at between 77x and 100x the rate of vaccinated over 60s. That would just be further evidence that people aren't ending up in Icu "with covid" but because of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Sorry if this line comes off as attacking.... but who's they? Where are they? And how many?

    I'm only asking this because I keep hearing people say it's the covid hermits prolonging this. But then I look towards my family, social circle, even people I work with and I know zero people who are afraid to go outside. In fact, I know a couple who have mentioned to me "microchips in vaccines" (yes, that level of oddness) who refused to get them and they are still out and about.

    Yet I keep hearing people going on about these hermits. It's all their fault. Just how many is there tho? Or is the line becoming a starting point to rabble on now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Last I checked on boards you don’t have to be qualified in a topic to post on it. However, I can see the point the poster is making.

    if memory serves me correctly generally when a person is re exposed to the exact same strain/variant of a virus their immune system should recognise it and respond very quickly and person shouldn’t get sick (obviously this can wane over time and some people are immunocompromised). Now as we all know from Covid many viruses mutate over time (some more then others). This can lead to our immune system not recognising it as a virus we have previously been infected with and we may increase our chances of becoming sick while our immune system fights off the virus.

    it’s too early to tell if we can be repeatedly be reinfected with Omicron more then likely at least some of us can be. Realistically we probably will all be getting Covid several times in our lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,165 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    83 in ICU, 26,122 new cases, looking very good for St Patricks Day Parades being green lit.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0108/1272508-coronavirus-ireland/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 dickdonk14


    Family of 4 all close contacts on 28th December. Tested positive on 29th December (antigen). Tested negative 4/5th January (antigen). 3 of us got appointments this morning for pcr tests. Wife 4.20pm Mullingar. daughter 5pm navan. Me 5.20pm ashbourne. We live in navan. Don't think we bother



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    83 in ICU is the lowest since early November. Total of 273 in ICU of which 83 are Covid related. And we still have people screaming about numbers and "danger".



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    2 weeks of 10k+ cases every day now. ICU has gone down in that period.

    This is all over now bar the shouting. Roll on the penny dropping with the politicians and the realisation that the misery of restrictions can come to an end. 2022 is looking fantastic.



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