Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

It's functionally irrelevant at this stage. There is no point in trying to curtail the spread of Omicron, it's a waste of energy. Having a physically well person isolating themselves just in case they might infect someone else is ridiculous when there are five other potentially infectious people who are wandering around unawares.

We need to change the rules:

• If you have any reason to believe that you're a close contact (regardless of whether you've been officially contacted), then you perform an antigen test every day for five days, but continue about your day as normal unless you get a positive antigen or develop symptoms.
• If you have a positive antigens or symptoms, you isolate, do 3 antigens over five days and continue to isolate until two days after your last negative test.

Can be a few things,

Caught it in hospital is one, another is went for something else and tested positive on admission & third had covid symptoms, couldn't get a test and needed hospital care & covid confirmed on admission with a hospital test.

One of my children had Covid at the end of November confirmed with pcr and tested positive again last week.

They were tested as a close contact end of November and initially returned a negative result, tested again on day 10 and tested positive

They tested positive on an antigen test last week and we were told it was a reinfection as antigen tests pick up on active infections not previous

Unless she had delta then and omicron now?

Get vaccinated to reduce the spread kids. LOLz.

I think with 95% vaccinated, loads boosted and the highest case numbers in Europe, it's pretty obvious that vaccination has NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT on transmission.

Thanks, she was thankfully asymptomatic both times

Worst case scenario is that people to some degree may be able to still transmit C19 (but less transmission than the vaccinated). Seatbelts do not stop you having a crash, but they protect you from the consequences of a crash. Sure, some people will die with seatbelts. Does that make seatbelts useless?

Firstly, the primary aim of vaccines is to reduce serious Covid (ie needing oxygen). Secondly, Compared to no vaccine, the relative risk of disease transmission seems to be lower.

Given that the first vaccines were only administered in January, the booster programme only started in October and we are only January 2022, your point fails to make the impact you seek.

We are in, by no means a comparable situation to 2021. We are making progress. But progress does not just mean throwing caution to the wind. We have to have a good exit strategy

Didnt realise being able to drive was prerequisite for having a meal indoors!!

You do realise loads of people who dont drive actually fully partake in society.

I think your driving analogy is only making sense in your head.

Tell that to people in rural Ireland with poor access to public transport.

People accept restrictions for certain things, e.g. driving, smoking in bars/restaurants, etc. The vaccine is no different. The smoking ban was to protect the health of others. Similarly driving restrictions is to protect others. Not getting vaccinated not only affects the individuals but all of us.

A. They have a higher rate of admission to hospital, which means use of very limited resources. So when I need my surgery, the resources are not available

B. They have a higher transmission rate

It's actually just the EU avoiding members setting their own rules and this is the collective agreed limit.

It is a restriction of that person’s freedoms (ie they cannot drive) to protect our collective society

I think it’s more about choice you can choose not to own a car but can still part take in all aspects of life.

People under the age of say 50 probably think and correctly so that they are at a very minor risk of covid so see no reason to take something that doesn’t benefit them so will take a risk based on their own choice.

If you flip it around you could say people want to isolate the unvaccinated purely to protect themselves and their own as they feel and maybe are over a certain age and are more at risk so they feel that vaccination should be mandatory and people are idiots for not agreeing.

Im vaccinated and have no issue with it but I don’t like the Idea of going down mandatory vaccinations without choice. And no I don’t believe not allowing people to do anything without been vaccinated means they have a choice and it’s not mandatory.

It comes down to personal responsibility and what people think is a risk to them. You may have something in your life that you would not like to be forced to do that other people would think your mad to take a stance on.

Some people just don't want to get a vaccine every 6 months.

To reduce the effects of a disease that many will need a test to know they actually have.

What's the difference between anti vaccers and anti boosters?

About 6 months for a lot of them

See my comment above.

you don’t HAVE to go to a restaurant or bar. You can eat at home. It is a choice.

we have to restrict freedom to protect the collective good.

if you still cannot understand my analogy, here is another more concrete example:

People were aghast when the smoking ban was proposed. They said that it was unfair that they could not smoke in bars and restaurants. They predicted the end of these sectors. But the argument that won the public over was that staff deserve a safe workplace.

Now vaccines are not perfect, but they are by far the best we have. Covid is a contagious illness spread person-to-person. The vaccine reduces this transmission rate. Thus, it protects people from spreading it. Also, the people that are unvaccinated are more likely to get sick with Covid and need hospital resources