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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,773 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    The Times article said he wasn't going to get blanket cable coverage for his farce. Also that he'd received a lot of advice to no hold his event on the 6th from the sitting GQP'ers in DC.

    He'll rev up the droolers in Arizona in a couple weeks and get his narcissism fix that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I'm wondering why the always classy Melania is selling clothes from her time as 1st lady and if she is even allowed to do so.


    She's also hawking bitcoin for some reason, and will only accept payment for the clothes in same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,773 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    why wouldn't she be allowed to sell her clothes?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭dinorebel




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I was expecting a picture of her standing next to Trump smiling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Democrats have 10 months to pull something out of the bag or be destroyed in the mid-terms.

    like him or hate him, Trump is still a large political force. The democrats know this and currently cannot do much, the push-back from voters would be massive and could easily start social unrest.

    Republican leadership want to distance themselves from him, but cannot. He has the majority of Republican voters support.

    will he run again? I personally hope not! He will, however, have major influence on whomever does run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,288 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    The democrats know this and currently cannot do much, the push-back from voters would be massive and could easily start social unrest.


    Please explain

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Unless you are living under a rock, perception in the States by republicans is that Democrats are out to get Trump. Go figure….

    die hard Trump supporters are…monied…vocal…loud…and armed.

    living in the States currently, you get the feeling of a tinderbox with gun powder all around…. One spark etc…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,908 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I'd tend to think it's far more of the former than the latter. When has he ever taken actual legal advice and done the smart thing?

    I'd say all the major media all told him they weren't coming and that he'd only have OANN, Newmax and that level attending.

    The entire purpose of the event was to draw attention away from Biden and other things happening on the day - He has been told that it wasn't going to achieve that so he cancels , it's as simple as that.

    It's not like he has anything actually important, new or relevant to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I think the item is a worn-once-specific for a diplomatic function and so was provided by the taxpayer. I might be wrong though, you find all sorts of idiots online...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,288 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    You are suggesting that justice should be intimidated by the extremist few.

    **** that.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    That's what I read, but it was speculation.


    EDIT: after a bit of checking, it seems that outfits are often gifted to 1st Ladies by designers, but they remain the property of US govt. Don't know where the item of clothing (white hat she wore on trip to France) came from, whether it was gifted or hers to begin with.


    FURTHER EDIT: The hat and gown were made for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Untitled Image

    Here's a screenshot of the announcement of the sale, sorry the image if f'ed up, the linking code on here dodgy af.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    nothing there suggests that the taxpayer paid for the hat or that she received it as a gift. That she had the hat made by the designer who picked her clothes for her suggests to me that she paid for it herself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,773 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Sort of hilarious and disgusting at the same time. Cryptocurrency ftw, too, doesn't trust USD (or maybe expecting a lot of overseas 'bidders.')


    I wonder what the over/under is for the percentage of 'profits' turned into foster care / education grants.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Melania selling NFTs?

    Man, I never would have thought she'd become my most hated Trump....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Yes, that's what I said in the previous post (after edit)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,773 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Didn't realize that the 'collection' was dubbed 'the Head of State' collection. Uhh.... FLOTUS is head of nothing.


    And the gown she wore to the #2xIMPOTUS inauguration was at least stylish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    The problem is that his Klan can not, WILL not change their mind. He is bullet-proof to them. While they would happily burn someone alive for "taking the knee" (And don't their stars align beautifully that most of these people are black. Sheer perfection for them), if trump came out tomorrow and took a dump on the American flag, they would cheer him as they would then declare "This flag doesn't represent me anymore". MAYBE they'd have a problem if he simply Came Out :)

    But his Klan will all turn out for the mid-terms and 2024. As is their right. But Democrat voters have a tendency to NOT turn up. They did last time and voted him out. But the biggest issue with Democrat voters is apathy. And, say what you want about trump, he is certainly more of a personality than Biden.

    And trump's Klan will spot the usual Schrodinger's Covid arguments:

    • It is fake.
    • It's the Democrats' fault that it is spiking.

    Sometimes within the same breath.

    And the usual Schrodinger's Elite arguments:

    • Trump's a hugely successful billionaire tycoon. Smartest and richest man in the world.
    • Trump is a man of the People. One of us and will "get" those billionaire tycoons.

    So, as much as I hate to admit it, 2022 and 2024 WILL be a close one and it is too close to call. I mean, even the most ardent trump advocate here would have to agree that democracy has been permanently damaged in the US by trumps statements. They won't say it but deep down they will believe it (because it's an undeniable Truth). So, 2022 and 2024 will be close and EXTREMELY nasty and messy...... And THAT, above all else, will be trumps Legacy. That he sh4t all over American democracy. He will be remembered for no other policy decisions (The vast majority of which were rolled back or thrown out).

    As for Civil War? Nah. Not going to happen. briany said it best:

    I think when you get down to brass tacks, the numbers willing to take up arms would be too few and too disorganised in their aims. It would be such an odd mix of people. You'd have your militia types, but you'd also have lads in cosplay knight armour, livestreaming their attempt to take over a neighbourhood in Portland, Oregon, plus middle-aged women attempting to run people down in their gas-guzzling 7 seaters while rattling off a stream of consciousness rant about vaccines.

    There's no organisation there. There is only so much you can do with some pick-up trucks, 4 teeth, a confedarate flag, your cousin, and a nebulous hatred of homosexuals, "dem t owelheads", Bill Gates nanobots, "Elites", liberals, RINOs, everyone who is not them ('cuz they all hate 'Murica) and Democrats (Who, let's not forget, are Satanist pedophiles.)

    They may have vast amounts of firearms but it would never happen. Oh they'd come out: Squeeze into their camouflage gear. Cover their exposed bellies with their assault riles. Parade up and down a few streets in Oklahoma and Florida. Call themselves Patriots. The National Guard will come out (eventually. Even in these places). Shots may even be fired. If a National Guardsmen is killed, fox "news" will offer thoughs and prayers to the family. If an insurrectionist is killed, fox "news" will wail and throw their hands up in the air about the heavy-handed approach taken on innocent people expressing their right to bear arms.


    But no, there will be no real "uprising". Just a lot of people with large, over-compensating guns preening about in costumes.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Niamh on


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Might be hard to identify who paid for specific items , but I'm almost 100% that there is a "clothing budget" for the 1st lady to provide for the fact that she'd need to be buying clothes for high profile events etc.

    That budget is perfectly fine and makes total sense , but if Melania is now monetising those items by selling them (and NFT's of her wearing them!!) then while probably not actually illegal it's just another distasteful example of them grifting for money at any available opportunity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,773 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    I am confident that designers all jostle for opportunities to donate clothing. Remember the 'eat the rich' gown AOC wore (to much right-wing pearl clutching?) It was very expensive, and donated.


    The grifting is the disgusting part, but Melania really was forced to relent from the grifting while FLOTUS, now that she isn't, sell everything. Still I'm hyper-amused by her insisting on cryptocurrency as payment. Can't trust those bidders...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,963 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    i'm not sure there is a clothing budget. FLOTUS can have items donated to her but those items remain the property of the US government. its not like she is paying full price for her clothes anyway.

    Michelle paid for her own clothes. I can't see how it would be different for Melania.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Getting into bitcoin to avoid asset seizure maybe?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    And not being able to trace where it came from either.

    Selling NFT's using only crypto for payment really is a potentially great way to clean money, or to hide illegal payoffs and bribes.

    If someone was that way inclined of course.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,965 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I'd say it's more likely that she wants to move to Bitcoin as an excuse to unsubscribe from Donald's emails asking for donations.



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