Fire in Molesworth Street

Thread should be a PM exchange.

So are you saying that the far-right didn't celebrate the attack?

We'll get an update when someone is charged or it comes to Court, just like any other Garda investigation.

I honestly wouldn't have thought of BLM as a far-left movement. While it does attract support from left and far-left, it also gets support from elsewhere. Certainly, my nephews in the US who were at the protests are a long way off left or far left. They've got support from Kyle Rittenhouse in recent weeks. It's not exactly a far-left stronghold.

In relation to burning buildings, I'm not seeing any such news reports on RTE, except for the action of the Proud Boys leader mentioned below. Am I missing something?

What violence would be involved in dismantling capitalism? Surely it could be done democratically (ignoring the question of the likelihood of majority support? Are people really that desperate to try to spread the dirt around that flimsy claims like this are believed?

It's odd, very very odd, that you are equating sympathising with victims of a violent crime with 'protecting a secret society'. I can sympathise with my neighbour on his burglary, even though we both know that I think he's a right %%%%%%.

The put a wheel lock on the Punto.

It's banjaxed the 3 of them.

Long history of hostility from the left towards Freemasonry, they saw it as quasi religious, quasi Jewish, class ridden, a secret opposition force against them. Obsessed with traditional values, even if they were enlightenment led ones at times.

This hate is older from far left or far right than a few knobs on twitter.

One of ye. Two of ye.

What a few of your dopplegangers on twitter say about it have no more relevance or expression of wider views than your political side of that family feud.

LOL

Opus Dei and Knights of Columbanus say hello. I'd agree on the 'nothing good' bit though.

Is this bluster designed to distract from the key question that you keep avoiding. Who on the far left has been celebrating this attack please?

So you're saying that capitalists are fundamentally violent people, and somehow that's the fault of far-left people working through democratic processes? You seem to have lost sight of things somehow.

This particular attack is considered to be from the far right because it is from the far right. Look at the anti-vax slogans sprayed outside. Look at the celebration of the attack in far right circles. Look at the gross stupidity of the attacker jumping out the window and falling to the basement- all the hallmarks of far right.

He came up with a load of bluster when I asked that question. Maybe you'll have better luck.

I think I stopped believing you somewhere around 'I know plenty who would of quite far left'. But regardless of my personal view, can you just confirm did you have these conversations with all your far left friends about what the Freemasons deserve before or after the recent attack?

So over the past week, you've had contacts with "extended family, work colleagues and certain social circles" who are far-left people who have expressed their views on the attack on the Freemasons building?

Honestly, it doesn't sound very credible at all. No-one in my circles has mentioned the Freemason attack, one way or other - no-one in family, no-one in work, no-one in social circles. It just sounds a bit convenient that you've had such contacts over the past week.

It's really strange to see the consistent effort to tar far-left and far-right with the same brush, despite the complete absence of evidence of any far-left view on the particular issue.

The fire happened on New Years Eve. So if anyone was talking to you about a fire at the Freemasons over Christmas, prior to New Year's Eve, you should really be letting the Gardai know, because they were probably involved in planning the attack.

Today is 6th of Jan, and it is 3-4 days since you started claiming that you knew of far-left people who were celebrating the attack. So your credibility depends on the likelihood of you have discussions with work colleagues (while most workplaces were closed for public holidays), extended family, social circles in the 2-3 days after the attack.

But it's more than that. It's not just 'family/work/social'. It is 'family/work/social that includes far-left people'. And it's not just discussion of news events. It is (apparently) people actively celebrating a violent criminal attack on work or family messaging groups.

It's all just a bit silly now.