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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,374 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Because it's very mild. The vaccine booster will likely wipe me out for 2-3 days anyway - the original doses did. Also there is growing evidence that vaccines plus natural immunity provide better and more robust long term protection.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's ripping either way. ICU is grand.

    We're starting to see testing and isolation winding down.

    Time to move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    I think the booster money be spent better on a health campaign judging by the amount of overweight people in the queues for boosters. There is a weight pandemic I would reckon and it's seems to be a significant factor in Covid complications. That said I think modern living is just all driving people to gain weight as it rolls on and there is no stopping it



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like there are quality control issues with some of the antigen tests.

    see thread: https://twitter.com/niamh_dr/status/1477210833293828096?s=21

    This is why I was always concerned with the “let the market fix everything” approach taken by the government.

    It’s almost inevitable that there’s going to be an issue and it’s also showing up in Germany.

    I’m not sure how we are being expected to figure this out, dealing with unheard of companies and brands with poor info about standards marking etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,587 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Still don’t see why you want protection from something you’re actively looking to get infected by in order become immune to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    We’re only changing testing becuase we can’t cope with current numbers?


    that isn’t winding down, it’s a panic solution



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Fred Astaire


    A weight pandemic actively worsened by governments at every opportunity during Covid.

    Closing of gyms repeatedly, closing of indoor sports repeatedly - takeaways open throughout.

    Keeping people within 5km of their homes.

    Closing parks so the public couldn't go to them.

    The last two years were a great opportunity to tell people - hey, being overweight is one of the main predictors for a negative Covid outcome. Lets try to eat healthier and exercise more.

    Nope. NPHET and govt decided it was best to stop people from exercising, encourage them to sit at home (and inevitably gorge on junk and alcohol) in a move that really falls in line with most of their appalling 'decisions'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    And then picking on unvaccinated people rather than pointing out the dangers of obesity.

    Post edited by Hey boy on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It's a paradox, sitting indoors for 2 years watching TV and getting fatter was considered a sensible response to a disease that primarily targets obesity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    I’m not biting, it’s too easy plus better things to do.

    If you’re interested there is any amount of free material which will explain this to you. Don’t believe everything Dawkins etc tell you - I know it’s popular to bash belief in God etc but it’s not nearly as simple as you suggested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    And telling the over 70 not to leave the house not even for a walk . So many suffered with stiff joints etc after cocooning for months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 126 ✭✭TracyMartell


    If anyone is still waiting for a booster. There’s barely any queue to get one in the national show centre in swords. I dropped someone there an hour ago.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be fair I’ve seen the opposite in the last year, a lot of people out walking. Way more than I’ve ever seen before.

    If I go to my local beach nowadays it’s always got people walking on it and even swimming in December. Most of that seemed to start during the county bounds travel restrictions and has continued. There are coffee places and little coffee vans booming away in places I’ve never seen them before and at scenic locations that would have historically been badly served. Things got organised and people went out.

    Also if you look at the greenways (walking and cycling) and cycle infrastructure in Cork City for example has boomed and is busy.

    Loads of people seem to walk now rather than get the bus too.

    I’m finding in general a lot of people become less worried by a bit of rain and are way more outdoorsy. The outdoor dining is also fantastically well put together in Cork City and I think that’s driven a bit of a “getting over” our pathological fear of slight breezes.

    I think it depends on the individual though. A lot of those very out of shape people wouldn’t ever have gone to a gym in the first place.

    I would agree though the cocooners had it very rough in some cases not going outside their hall doors for months. That was probably unavoidable pre vaccine but it wasn’t well handled. I know a few people who frankly went into completely over the top mode and still are terrified to go outside. You’ll often see the old man, walking along on an empty beach or an empty street at night wearing full masking etc. I worry a bit about those. That kind of stuff doesn’t really make sense anymore and probably never did. I can understand taking precautions in busy spaces, indoor and unventilated spaces, even in packed city streets it makes sense, but I’ve often seen people out for a lonely walk fully masked and it just makes me wonder about the advice being given and how it’s being interpreted by some. I’d suspect there’s a layer of serious social and even psychological problems that were triggered by this. I mean, can you imagine how someone who maybe already had OCD or agoraphobia might feel right now?

    I’ve also found that the anti everything brigade have caused some of those issues to be left without discussion as they’re turning everything into a conspiracy theory and caused a chilling effect on discussion, as the moment a topic is raised they pile on with the crazy stuff. A lot of stuff that needed to be talked about isn’t being.

    It’s complicated though. Some things have worked well. Some people have gotten on a lot better than others and it all depends on personal circumstances. I think it’s been a very different experience for different people and I think people need to be able to express that they’re not ok too.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    23000 cases reported but I’d say the real figure is double that. Have heard of 5 people just today with positive antigen tests and no PCR appointments available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭cuttingtimber22


    I would not be surprised. And if mild that is a positive.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I’m afraid to feel too positive but it really does look like this is the beginning of the end, omicron to the rescue. Really hoping it’s the case, think people really have had enough of this sh1t show.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you’ve a positive antigen test, perhaps confirm it with a second one and self-isolate.

    The PCR system isn’t ever going to be able to test the whole population on a daily basis. The technology is too cumbersome, labour intensive and expensive to do that.

    I get that people want certificates, but there’s also a large cohort who do not need them, yet still seem to think they desperately need PCR tests.

    I know people working from home, with no issues whatsoever about HR requirements, double and triple vaccinated, mild sniffly symptoms who are absolutely fixated on getting a PCR. I can’t understand why. It’s like they think it’ll cure it or something.

    For the vast, vast majority of us, this is going to be a few days at home, tea, Panadol and sympathy. 94% of adults are double vaccinated, almost 100% in some counties and ages and a rapidly growing number are also boosted.

    Unless you’re unlucky enough to have bad symptoms, I can’t really see what the panic to get HSE care is all about.

    I just can’t understand why we’re swamping the public testing facilities to confirm information most of us already know.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Employees are insisting on PCRs to grand Covid related sick leave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Very true. 20000 plus cases a day and hospital figures down 60 today



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My point is those aren’t the only people rushing for PCRs at the slightest sniffle. I know several people who’ve no pressure at all, yet were hammering the website to get PCRs. I’m talking IT people and work from home people with mild sniffles. Even self employed in some cases and won’t even be eligible for sick pay. They just want their PCR and email.

    They also don’t need the recovery cert being fully, fully vaccinated.

    I think the “snake oil” messaging and initial dismissal of antigen tests as a technology is coming back to haunt them in the health services.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Self employed people are entitled to Covid illness benefit but need a PCR to get it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,833 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Hospital numbers down and omnicron running rampant. High figures from a week ago not translating to higher hospital figures today.

    With 20k plus cases detected today, and the real number at least twice that, and growing we would surely need to see hospitalizations in a weeks time up 5 fold to 3k plus or else all restrictions need to be removed immediately.

    If we dont see 3k in hospital by next week we have to declare this nonsense over and done with.



  • Posts: 533 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    First I’ve heard of it. I had a massive bout of COVID early on in the pandemic and didn’t get a cent. Lost a lot of income and had to try working from bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    6 houses out 8 in my corner of a cul de sac have positive cases . One of the houses is empty and the other had Covid last March

    So in one small cul de sac in one estate in a part of Dublin have 6 out of 8 houses positive

    What does that say about cases out there ? Its absolutely rampant and spreading and nothing at all will stop it now



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭greyday


    The time not spent in School the last 2 years.............some off that time was without doubt extra holidays IMO.



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