Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

well common sense approach would work in that you would get tested yourself - do an at home antigen test if that is all that is available

Are idiots still pushing this trope?

It was simply using a pre-existing legislative distinction between premesises to separate those who provided food and accompanying drinks in a controlled, limited capacity, seated, table-service only environment and those who packed people in elbow to elbow, primarily or exclusively to drink.

People are either stupid or playing stupid if they think, or believe others will think it was really about some magical €9.

Guidelines are just that, advice, but those that don't follow the rules are making problems for those that do. They should be sanctioned with fines and/or closure orders and their licence applications scrutinised when they come up for renewal. Others within their industry and their representative organisations should not support them because their short term greed is harming the entire industry.

What do you think the guidance would be or should be?

It was ok for me for the first 12 hours but the 48 hours after that were pretty tough. Headache, fever, shakes. Pain/swelling in lymph nodes now gone so hopefully through it and ready and armed for infection by Covid if it happens. And I will not be seeking it.

July 19th.

No, sorry, that's the day the ice age ended.

It should be driven by data, not some arbitrary date. When hospital numbers and case numbers are decreasing and continue to decrease or remain at manageable levels, despite increasing relaxation of restrictions then restrictions can continue to be relaxed until there are none.

When will that be? How long is a piece of string?

Ya, that's actually me. I WFH so don't need to worry about it that much but I spend a good chunk of the year sneezing.

I'm not sure. But just putting our heads in the sands and treating them as if they are not potentially infectious is certainly not the way to go about it.

As Seamus alluded to - maybe something like a strict daily antigen testing regime in certain settings might be appropriate.

Another stupid comment. Their job is to advise the government on best practice for the health of the nation. They don't make any decisions about what we do.

When are people going to understand this and stop having a go at NPHET.

You blame the government for anything as regards restrictions or otherwise that you are not happy with because they make the decisions

Unfortunately my aunts husband is gone into hospital with suspected Covid today. He had done an antigen test at home yesterday and it was negative. He was in a bad state today though. Ambulance men told my aunt that the antigen tests are useless and should be thrown in the bin….dunno about that but they weren’t useful in this case anyway. They said they are 100% that it’s Covid he has. He couldn’t even walk by himself to the ambulance. He has had the booster and all. I’m suprised he’s that bad. Hope he’ll be ok once he gets some treatment in hospital. He has had heart issues in the past and is due to go for an operation on his prostrate in January so perhaps this is why he got such a bad dose…my aunt just ended chemotherapy a few weeks ago so really hope if she gets it that it’s not too bad for her.

There obsession with washing hands is pretty much nonsense at this stage. The Irish government didn't bother to update the guidelines around this for 12+ months.

CDC have had for 9+ months on their website that Covid transmission via surface contamination is the least likely, the primary being aerosols and close contact - either someone coughing/breathing at you or you walking into a cloud of cough / exhale.

Yes, hand sanitising helps and is a good practice (limits influenza and other pathogen spread) but it's only a cherry on top of the cake, it's not some of a core ELEMENT of anti-covid strategy as it's become established in Ireland.

Hand washing - that's just a normal habit where I'm from. Does Tony insist that Irish people are dirty fellows who didn't get to learn basic hygiene standards?