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Is my Plasterer slow?

  • 21-12-2021 6:47pm
    #1
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭


    Getting my whole house (standard Dublin semi-detached, approx 80m2) boarded and skimmed (existing walls and ceilings weren't good enough to just skim, so boarding over all of them). I have 2 plasterers and an apprentice at it 7 work days now. Progress so far is the 3 bedrooms (box room and two bigger bedrooms) fully boarded and skimmed and the landing half boarded (ceiling and half the main wall). Should I expect more to be done by now?

    I can't argue about the quality. And the ceilings in the bedroom slope as they reach front/rear external walls, so a bit of messing there. I agreed to a day rate (out of desperation of wanting this done) and this progress up to now has cost me €4,000 excluding materials.

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  • #2
    Bonzo Delaney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    Take out the apprentice wages prob leaves 250 a day for the plasterers.

    About average cost.

    7 days seems alot of time for whats covered.

    Are you living in the house do the rooms have to be covered down and cleaned up afterwards 1 room at a time

    What's the scope of labour work to be done

    Covering down and tidying up can double the time of getting the work done.



  • #3
    Scag Mattress
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭Scag Mattress


    When I worked in building we used to have a phrase/saying.

    I'll get the turkey out of this one..........



  • #4
    C. Eastwood
    Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭C. Eastwood


    Burkey2k0. What you are doing is perfect. Good Plastering Craftsmen are hard to find. You said that they are doing a very good plastering job for you.

    In any Construction project there are 3 very important items:- Time, Quality and Costs.

    The most important one here for you is Quality. When you have a perfectly plastered house Time and Costs becomes irrelevant.



  • #5
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118359462#Comment_118359462

    House is completely empty. No covering needed, No skirtings on the wall to be stripped, I've even taken off the sockets for them myself as they moaned about it.

    In terms of cleaning, they are doing a basic scrape and sweep of the floorboards and I'm left to scrub them clean afterward as they're not bothering to protect them as they go. Lesson learned for me to protect them before they come back after Christmas as I wouldn't trust them to do it properly.



  • #6
    JustJoe7240
    Registered Users Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058223845/is-my-plasterer-slow

    What have you budgeted for the job? If quality of work is decent I'd be inclined to hold my tongue to be honest.



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  • #7
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118360519#Comment_118360519

    Thanks for the response, but after almost 15 years in project management, 8 of which in mechanical contracting, if a project engineer said that to me I'd give him an absolute b*****king and move him/her on. In no scenario are time and costs irrelevant. If they are wasting my time and my money, I will throw these guys off the job.



  • #8
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118364276#Comment_118364276

    Approx 10k. I'm at 6k now including materials, with more to be bought (couple hundred euro I'd say). He's said it's going to be at least another 2 weeks, but I'd guess 3, so I'm at 15.5k approx end cost.

    I had a quote for 15k for a much higher spec job, and highly recommended plasterer. I've made enquiries of their availability after Christmas. So if I get the impression from others here, and some builders I'll ask over Christmas, that my guys aren't performing, I'll pay the bit extra for them.



  • #9
    JustJoe7240
    Registered Users Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118364308#Comment_118364308

    Sorry, Assumed job was practically finished.

    Not helpful I know, But you leave yourself open to being taken for a ride when you agree to day rates,

    I'd still be inclined to say hold your tongue OP, Assuming you could get someone decent to come in and finish the job, which many may not, By the time you pay the man there now, and settle up the rest, You probably won't be a whole lot worse off, Plus you're running the risk of the man there walking off site, and the new contractor letting you down leaving you high and dry.



  • #10
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    Just an update on this. I relieved the original plasterer of his services last week after he didn't show up one of the days.

    New plasterer started today and has flown through it on the first day. I was being ridden.



  • #11
    Saladin Ane
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Saladin Ane


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451683#Comment_118451683

    Well, how did you finish up? Happy? And did the cost come under budget?



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  • #12
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 38,998 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451683#Comment_118451683

    The day rate you were paying seams a little low. 550 including materials? Not surprised that were going slow. I'd have been looking for a lump sum.



  • #13
    Doolittle51
    Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Doolittle51


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451683#Comment_118451683

    I presume it's all done now? Would you recommend him? If so I'd appreciate if you could PM me his details. Thanks.



  • #14
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497737#Comment_118497737

    Not including materials.



  • #15
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    The new plasterers finished on budget and ahead of schedule. And I'm absolutely delighted with the job.

    In scenarios like these, it's difficult to follow your gut and throw a tradesman off the job. But in this example I was absolutely correct. I came home everyday extremely happy with the progress made and confident they were advising me to make the right decisions. The exact opposite feeling I got from the previous guy.



  • #16
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118510104#Comment_118510104

    I would highly recommend him. I'll PM you now.



  • #17
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Aka the cream



  • #18
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Not just for plastering but all trade work including my own( decorator)

    one should use highly recommended from friends/ relatives only

    afte obviously checking work done previously



  • #19
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 38,998 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    In that case different story. They were trying to milk it for sure.



  • #20
    burkey2k0
    Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭burkey2k0


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118519532#Comment_118519532

    Agree. My recommended plasterers were too busy, and after being let down by a contractor, my house stood ready, stripped and ready for plastering. I needed to get a guy in sooner rather than later, so I depended on reviews on Google to find a decent one. The plasterer that let me down was the highest reviewed guy, 5 stars, no bad reviews. But they can be easily faked. Second guy also had great reviews, but I had second hand recommendations from 'real' people online (Facebook).



  • #21
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Only as good as your last job



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