The Omicron variant

Not celebrating, but when you dont do everything to protect yourself sympathy is difficult to muster.

Or maybe he was just a normal guy who got complications, does it say anywhere he was anti-vax, it was his choice not to get the vax and to have people more or less mocking a dead person, is pretty low even for this place. Should we mock the vaccinated idiots who also died of covid, why didn't they just stay at home and watch netflix.

And he got booed by his own supporters for admitting it.

It's about a 2 week lag, we should start getting details around new years (might be sooner for London and Denmark).

I see data over on another thread of Denmark having a jump in percentage but another person pointed out that SA had the same effect due to incidental positives rather than admission due to covid.

As somebody has mentioned before, we should have a clear picture by now with the many cases and sufficient time passed plus the fact that those who have to go to hospital due to Omicron will likely have underlying health conditions and will be in hospital shortly after contracting the infection, i would guess around day 2-5, healthy people a tad longer but that would be a very low percentage. Give it 10 days. We could start counting from dec 10 and do the math w proper numbers. Numbers going to hospital and actual numbers IN hospital (which differ from one another). And stratify those into severity, age etc. It is not looking too bad atm. It should actually be worse if we accept projections. We hope we can follow SA in their trajectory🙂..

Expect more details after everybody has had their booster shot.

Looks like some good pieces of data regarding Omicron are coming out

Omicron not only replicates less well in host cells, but also causes less systemic infections by replicating preferentially in cells of the mucosa of the upper airways (your nose), which are poorly protected by vaccine induced immunity.

The fast spread of the Virus resides in its shorter intergenerational interval (i.e. less time between successive transmissions by the same lineage).

It is what we learned from SA and is now growing evidence the rest of the world will follow. To preemp and play devil's advocate: with the high numbers of cases the people going into hospitals will also be bigger. As ive said before: any equation is based on the principle of high uncertainty. So far, so good is what i am thinking atm.

I would add one detail to the report: Omicron virus resides in the bronchi in much larger numbers than w Delta which travelled to the lungs. Asthma patients beware!

It spreads fast and can be found in large numbers in the upper parts of the lungs but less able to get into the deeper parts to cause severe COVID.

It's not as simple as the virus not being able to get that far, it's that the structures of the cells are different in the bronchus and the lungs and the virus' ability to attach to those cells and replicate are different. Omicron has only been known about for a matter of weeks, which means that studies into it are very early and not yet peer reviewed but any I've seen tend to be clear and level headed, usually stating "this is what we've observed" as a simple matter of fact, either from data that exists from human infections or more applied science involving lab cultures, without trying to claim anything that they don't have data for. I haven't seen any scientists making either of the extreme claims you mention. It's news articles and people on social media who pick and choose bits of different articles out of context to support one opinion or another that skew things.

Well done. Kudos to you!

Mind you, i think official health bodies as well as politicans quite often mislead the public and at times bluntly lie. For the good of the people no doubt.😉