Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

And the hospital spread, who can you blame for the deaths of over 800 people who caught it in there?

The whole blame game is pathetic, it’s airborne and humans can’t live isolated from each other. The hilarious thing about your comment is that you said that this wouldn’t have gone on so long if the morons could just…….. obey, whatever. Quite the opposite, the restrictions are what has dragged this on for so long, remember ‘flattening the curve’. Everyone is going to get this eventually.

I used them that once. I didn't know before going in that they weren't checking. I do now and I haven't been back since. Yes, I would be part of the problem if I continued.

Only the holiest of the holies can follow the rules properly. All others are at fault and their heresy hurts us all.

I don't blame anybody, because I don't care what others do. They can do what they want, it is none of my business.

I do find it very weird how many people on this thread seem to think that the government stay up late, thinking of ways to control us all. Too much Netflix?? I'm not sure, but it's really odd.

I'm not the 'restriction nut' that some people on here probably think I am and I sympathise immensely with local business owners. In fact, I started a fundraiser for our local business association (yes, I know that it isn't going to make up for what has happened to them but I can't afford to reimburse them for 2years of this sh1te)

If the plan is to let everyone get it then fine, open it all up. Those of us who don't wish to go out, still don't have to. But that doesn't seem to be the plan. And if it isn't the plan, then restricting the social, less controllable aspects of society seems to make the most sense, no?

You don't blame anybody and you don't care what others do.

But you make sure to tell us all about the dirty shoppers in LIDL not wearing masks properly and the dirty costa coffee staff who don't check the little certs, and proclaim that it is their own fault that they are getting shut down.

Ok then.

I see South Africa's version of NPHET have recommended stopping contact tracing and isolation. They think immunity is enough to declare it endemic.

What about parents out in restaurants and pubs, they catch it and give it to their kids who bring it to school?? It works both ways...

Many children also attend extracurricular activities and mix with other children.

I also know many teachers who got covid out socialising, not in school.

I couldn't read all of that because it is behind a paywall. Wondering do they list many more 'underlying healthy conditions' after obesity.

You don't have to be that overweight to be classed as obese on the BMI scale btw. You would be surprised at what counts for 'obese' according to that way of measuring!

Yeah, that's it. It's almost as if you are saying that if you don't take personal offence to something, you can't hear or see it? And you certainly can't mention that you've heard or seen it.

Outrage for the sake of it, anyone?

Interesting days ahead. 2500 cases today. That means 10000 cases by Thursday and 20000 by Christmas Day if the 2 day doubling happens. It will be interesting if we are still at 5000 to 6000 cases by the end of the week, that would indicate serious issues with the data being presented.

Yeah, that is fair enough. 40+ is the severe obesity range, which definitely is not good. Thanks for quoting article

It's accurate for 99.9% of the population

For anyone else they need to accept the facts