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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    We'll be hard pushed to identify over 10K positive cases a day off our testing, unless positivity at least doubles and while 40K tests might be doable that's about the limit. We may have hidden positives where people test themselves or those with "colds" just self-isolate. What we also know is that we batten down the hatches when we see such panicky numbers, which provides its own protection. As a comparison to what we might see our January peak was only three days of horrendous numbers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    The curtain twitching has started already I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    With your hands over your eyes, how do you cover your ears?

    And are you embarrassed that even the CSO knew what the loons would try and do with the data and made sure the data couldn't be misread to support a narrative, yet you fell for it anyway?

    There is someone working for the CSO that sat down, analysed the data, and anticipated that idiots online would try and do what you're doing and made sure that the data was presented in such a way that it would make them look ridiculous. That person has inadvertently trolled you mercilessly.

    And yet still, you do not back down. Someone in the CSO has proved you completely wrong using actual evidence and analysis and yet your pride will prevent you from acknowledging that (well mostly because it's been pointed out so clearly that you've got nowhere to run and a climb down is very difficult on an internet forum). So you will need to persist with this direction even though you know, in your heart, that you are wrong.



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You'll have to get prepared for the inevitable comeback Fintan...

    The reason there is so few excess deaths is because of restrictions. Without them bodies would have piled up on the streets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,420 ✭✭✭✭astrofool




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭cheezums


    Full restrictions into the summer even with no strain on hospitals? Do you even believe the stuff you post?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,244 ✭✭✭✭paulie21




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    You must have been abroad the last two summers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We couldnt even get outdoor sports facilities open till after Easter last year.

    This is a country where the levels of obesity and depression in our twenty year olds is shocking.

    We couldnt even organise a marathon inthe outdoors in October such was the iron grip those protecting the health service had on the country.

    There is a court case starting tomorrow because some one organised a meal for a group of golfers indoors in August, we had no one in hospitals in August but oh my god,control had to be kept because the childer were going back to school in september and the hospital system might collapse.

    its a cult at this stage, media having shed loads of taxpayers money being shovelled their way to ply the Governments tune,no one asking questions,we get what we deserve.

    I mean cheezums when will you ever think for yourself.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And we couldnt even get the schools open in the summer term of 2020 eventhough other European countries managed to open schools by April.

    We closed themagain in january and what happened to make them safereventilation,that was three monthsin 2020, the whole summer holidays of 2020 and then the three months the schools were closed in 2021.

    And we couldnt even fit HEPA fliters so we had thousands of cases, this meant so many people forced to go back to sitting on a bed with a laptop instead of working in their offices, who cares about them and their mental health,its all about saving a dysfunctional hospital system.

    So when will people get back to work, whenwill be towns and city centres be lively again,when canwe plan a family occasionwithout fearingthat restrictions will come in with three days notice.

    Is there ever going to come a pointinour lives when we arent reminded everyday to "behave ourselves"so the hospital system isnt overrun, is this it every winter going forward because no matter how many people take any number of vaccines our hospitals are so badly managed panic sets in once cases of sniffles reach acertain number.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Because cutting public transport capacity is the dumbest, middle aged, work from home, out of touch with society move. People still need to use public transport, if they want to make it safer they need to put on more busses and trains, not less.


    If I recall NPHET actually advised shutting it down entirely during lockdown 1, how did they think their Healthcare staff were going to get to work?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How would they enforce it,most people dont care about covid anymore, they are jabbed and increasingly boosted and for them this is it.

    They are taking their lives back and will fight to get on packed buses and trains to do their christmas shopping,they will have as many other families totheir houses as they like and will use antigentesting toprotect older relatives.

    We could of course have free good quality masks and free antigen tests available everywhere like normal mature countries do,but no , thats releasing the tight control overt he population,better to just shut the economy down.

    The shops will be closed once the millions of euros land in the till, its completely insane to close sit down restaurants at 8pm while crowded shops are open twenty four hours, none of this makes sense anymore,not that it ever did, snake oil antigen tests and using butter to fake them, yes, thats the height of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,303 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    And not even a blip on the 'deaths' curve at the same time.

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The issue here is the huge numbers were have over eighty five and most with underlying conditions.

    We also have so many hugely obese unhealthy people, we have young people who are in their early twenties and already with cardiac problems due to their weight. If enough of that cohort arent vaccinated then we have a problem. hopefully by now those that are likely to end up very ill with covid will take steps to protect themselves, they should know the score by now.

    While the average age is South Africa is 27 their vaccinations rates are low.

    We have 92 per cent of the adult population vaccinated and all the vulnerable boosted so this should offset the disadvantage we have or having so many obese people.

    If the Government genuinely think January 2022 is going to be as bad as Jan 2021 then everything we have done so farhas come to nought,all those livelihoods destroyed,the mental health carnage,the money spent on vaccinations,the divisiveness over the covid passes.

    There will be nothing for it now but to accept we have to build the equivalent of fever hospitals and treat covid patients there.

    We cant go in and out of these restrictions for the forseeable future because we have an inadequate health service,every young person with a sellable skill will leave and then we have no nurses, no teachers, no doctors, no tradespeople,the exodus is happening already.

    The most dpressing part of all of this was Leo Varadkar basically saying this is our future, a half lived life with defined periods when we can have the freedoms we took for granted in 2019,he actually said this on Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Anyone listening to Gavin Reilly this morning. More NPHET leaks on schools not reopening come January and all non-essential retail closed.

    No word on 2km/5km/county but talk of manufacturing also being shut.

    Lovely



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    I dont see why it would be any different really once it protects the HSE it will continue to happen, this time next year we will be doing exactly the same thing. 2022 and 2023 will be exactly the same as 2021 and we will continue on as we usually do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    It shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone who has observed what's happened on the past.

    2km would be much much safer than 5km



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    We still doing the 'died with Covid' thing here vs the 'died of Covid'? Sorry if this has been done ad nauseam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I have complied with everything asked of me up to now . But if the stop households visits again I am not listening . No way am I not seeing my fully vaccinated boosted family



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Have you a link to that?

    Average or median? If its median one unfortunate death on a younger person would skew it.


    If the average age of death this week was genuinely early 60s we'd be in full level 5 lockdown and every paper would be running with that headline to make sure we all stay terrified.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    This has to be a joke, why the f*ck would the government drive the booster and then still lock the f*cking whole place down??? Honestly it makes no sense. Could care less about schools to be honest, they do seem to be an issue though... but everything else, come on, just forget about the vaccines all together, they stop everything but lockdowns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,025 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I’ve been advising people in the last two weeks to get haircuts as the barbers may be shut down soon. They think that I am mad and they could never close again. After almost two years so many people are still being caught out and in total denial about the pandemic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,745 ✭✭✭893bet




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I would take a bet that restrictions in February will be at most equal to those in November



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    So gigs at full capacity and night clubs open?



  • Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Careful now. Posters like Hmmm completely disappeared after saying full normality would return once we got a few more jabs in arms last July.

    5 months later and here we are with rumours of retail and schools closing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Qued for the booster up at Swords for over an hour to be turned away at the gate - then have qued for 2 1/2 hours at the local chemist to be turned away at the vaccination booth because my 5 months is not up for 2 days . Why is it 3 months at a vaccination center but 5 at a chemist- another **** up by Donelly. Why when they are pushing a booster is there no give in a few days when it makes no difference.



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