Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:22PM

Its like the Edinburgh home game last season, a game we could very easily cut loose but we never do due to our obsession with going for 3 points at every single opportunity, nearly lost that game too as a result due to Edinburgh scoring tries.

lawrencesummers · 18-12-2021 09:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344574#Comment_118344574

Would you relax.

The BP is just around the corner.

18-12-2021 09:24PM

As bad as this is, I think I'd enjoy it more if the commentators stopped reminding us of how bad it is.

aloooof · 18-12-2021 09:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344574#Comment_118344574

While, equally, going for the 3 kept us in the game vs Clermont before we kicked on in a brilliant performance.

The difference that day was, the plays off line outs were sticking.

aloooof · 18-12-2021 09:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344572#Comment_118344572

The likes of the Campbell box kick was a bit loose. But then his kick down the line for Earls was good.

I think the errors are costing us far more than the kicking.

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:27PM

And that right there is why us going for 3 points all the time makes little sense, because we almost immediately concede 3 points and undo all the good work we did.

You can see in this game why Castres do well in the Top 14 but are rubbish in Europe, perfectly designed for the slugfest the Top14 is. Sadly we have paid them far too much respect today and allowed them to turn this into an arm wrestle.

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344586#Comment_118344586

There's a time and a place for it, away from home against a big team like Clermont it makes perfect sense, against Edinburgh and Castres at home where you expect to win its not the place.

budhabob · 18-12-2021 09:34PM

Kockott is an absolute numpty!

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:35PM

We are 10 points up with 12 minutes to go and we are going for goal against Castres at home...its quite clear we have no intention of going for the bonus point...

I hope Munster remember these decisions if we are away from home in a difficult knockout game due to us missing out on a home game by a point...

lawrencesummers · 18-12-2021 09:36PM

Maybe getting an away QF is the target turning down the try and taking the 3 points

ElisaAtWar · 18-12-2021 09:37PM

Castres were rubbish last week and are rubbish this week. You just take the win and move on. It's hard to be exciting against such negativity

aloooof · 18-12-2021 09:38PM

Farrell’s been getting his hands free all night. Could’ve looked a far better performance if others had been a bit more accurate around him.

budhabob · 18-12-2021 09:39PM

Tbf to Munster, the amount of disruption the last month is still having a massive affect. Some players not back to training until Tuesday this week, some still isolating including coaches. That's alot to deal with ....

brendanwalsh · 18-12-2021 09:39PM

Castre should complain about Munster having 16 on the field. in fairness we look awful even with Hank earls on the pitch.

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344644#Comment_118344644

Its even harder when you let them drag you down to their level. Continuing to go for 3 points at every single opportunity and allowing any life or momentum to be completely sucked out of the game isnt helping.

budhabob · 18-12-2021 09:40PM

Also, what's the deal with Kockotts left arm?

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344653#Comment_118344653

What Castres are doing here is no different to what Stade did in Galway last week, the only difference is Connacht actually played their own game whereas Munster have played Castres game. We are seeing which approach is more effective. The fact this could be a 1 score game with 5 minutes to go here is a damning indictment on Munster's performance today.

budhabob · 18-12-2021 09:49PM

That was ..... Odd!

aloooof · 18-12-2021 09:49PM

Error count just too high.

theVersatile · 18-12-2021 09:50PM

And Krum takes the Golden Snitch to finish the match on his terms.

lawrencesummers · 18-12-2021 09:51PM

Bring back the kids.

Not sure you will even sell 5k tickets for next week after that performance.

Murray should have gone earlier.

They should never have gone for 3 with that last kick.

Didnt control it, didnt play to our strenghts, didnt control the tempo, didnt attack their weakness.

Some of that is down to rustyness, but you would want a far far better performance next week.

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:52PM

Sums up what we were up against, shows just how criminal a performance that was Munster.

What we have learnt now without a doubt is dont play a game where we go for 3 points every single time we attack, we are far too undisciplined to be successful doing this. Its the big negative of playing Healy, O'Mahony will always take the 3 as he knows Healy will take the 3.

If we miss out on a home QF or SF by one point ill have no sympathy as we spent the whole game pissing around and playing within ourselves.

UAEguy2020 · 18-12-2021 09:56PM

Just look at that table, we missed out on top spot by a PD of 1. Imagine if what happened last year happens now and the last 2 rounds are suspended and we end up missing out by not only a point but a point in PD and we end up playing Racing away in a SF for example rather than a home SF, all of that because we just let Castres drag us down into an arm wrestle.

PHG · 18-12-2021 09:56PM

Unfortunately I am starting to be convinced that Murray won’t make the World Cup squad nor be the starting SH next year for Munster. So much box kicking and slow ball not getting runners on the ball.

Clegg · 18-12-2021 09:57PM

That was ok from Munster. They got sucked into a dogfight by Castres and never managed to get out of it. But a wins a win and you have to be happy with that.

They have Leinster next week and they'll be a far different proposition. They'll be raring to go having not played in a number of weeks.

One thing Munster can take from this evening is that they won the forward battle even though their pack underperformed. Leinster have generally won that in previous meetings. If Munster can gain parity they'll be in a good position.

Caranica · 18-12-2021 10:05PM

I've rarely been so happy to not be able to get to a game. Easy watching it wasn't.

lawrencesummers · 18-12-2021 10:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118344755#Comment_118344755

Yep. Leaving limerick now for a 4 hour drive would be hard going.

aloooof · 18-12-2021 10:19PM

I’ve some sympathy, given the last number of weeks. From the starting 15, I think John Ryan, Niall Scannell, Jean Kleyn, Ben Healy and JOD hadn’t started a game in 9 weeks, for example and will only have started training back with the others in the last few days.

Goes some way to explaining the performance, but the level of inaccuracies and errors made it difficult to get anything going (and more difficult to watch). I think if DDA’s score had stood, making it 13-0, it might’ve turned out different.

Shoring up the re-starts, Chris Farrell looking dangerous at times and 4 lineout steals amongst the few positives. Will need to be a lot better next weekend.

TRC10 · 18-12-2021 10:25PM

Great weekend for Munster.

A thrilling win v Castres

and Leinster lost 28-0

Neil3030 · 18-12-2021 10:39PM

Healy showed some glimpses of real quality tonight, not just from the boot. Nice timing and decisions on his passes.

Less said about... well.. most other things... the better...

Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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