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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    But you are able to get numbers yourself right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    It's great there's 410 in hospital with covid today down from 684 at peak in early November. Boosters working. But can posters not see it's yesterday's news. For example we had less than 200 in hospital this time last year. In a fortnight it multiplied 10 fold.

    The news is whether Omicron will have a big effect on our health service. How much of a threat is it. No use congratulating ourselves on quelling the last wave and make a bollix of something 'potentially' very serious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,669 ✭✭✭Klonker


    Thank god we had the longest lockdown in Europe all the way from January to the end of October when nightclubs finally opened, so that what opens stays opened. Thankfully we had the wise NPHET/government loyal posters like yourself that supported this hugely successful plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Rte getting a lot of click bait with their 7000 plus headlines.Nice advertising revenue coming in.

    Not the only ones the Irish media are a disgrace throughout this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Besides the obvious bad news about the lockdown, there's been some good news in recent days:

    • 410 in hospital - a great number! Lowest since October.
    • Clearly a backlog today, so BAU for the other numbers
    • Boosters being sped up now
    • Reports from SA that Omni doesn't affect the lungs as much as it isn't as good at infecting cells
    • Cases seem to clear quicker with Omni - 2/3 days vs two weeks of illness from the original virus


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yeah but not when there are scary daily numbers to rank versus our worst days. That said, I can understand the current interest/concern as we are looking at Denmark and the UK and expect quite a surge any time now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,285 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Are nightclubs now the barometer of when it’s a lockdown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yup, they just ignore the idea that most of the adult population has antibodies either from vaccines and/or exposure to Covid. It's like the narrative back in April 2020, warmed up for Dec 2021.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Stop reading it mate. Looks like you are part of click bite. Disgrace isn't it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    A week ago, 600 omicron cases were reported in the UK and since then, it has been doubling every 2 days approx.

    Given the typical lag to hospitalisation and deaths, the data today would make one cautious about assuming this variant is less severe. Hospital numbers, which were 10 at the start of the week, are now 85 in hospital with Omicron. Previously, there was 1 Omicron confirmed death reported to date, and today that is now 7 total Omicron confirmed deaths in the UK.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 628 ✭✭✭Ozvaldo


    Bate not bite



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Agreed. Frightening the public who don't follow anything but the headlines is disingenuous

    I wonder give how long we have been sat on an average of 4500 cases a day though if Omicron was not here at least the past four to six weeks

    We've had higher average numbers than the UK for weeks iirc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    How many hospitals are there in Ireland? And what's the average capacity of each?

    I'm just curious how it works out PER-hospital. It always makes it sound like there's 400 in ONE hospital, which would probably be pretty hard to manage.

    But if it's like, 10 people in a hospital with 300 beds - that's not exactly "over run" now is it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    You can't make people reading anything the way you want to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    2k or so from mid-October and the current level of 4-4.5K, excepting today, from about mid-November.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ro_chez




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    So a month of 4 -4.5 k it really makes me wonder if Onicron has been here linger than thought



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Those are tiny numbers for the UK. Compares to about 7 in hospital and less than 1 death here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    I'm guessing that will go right over the heads of the types who get very angry at any minor inconvenience in their lives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    A lot of biting and bateing going on 😂

    I couldn't help but take the bait😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    The magnitude of the numbers is not the point, it’s how quickly there are multiple deaths coming through despite the typical lag from cases to deaths, and a supposedly milder variant. These early figures - which is the only real data we can go by - do not suggest it is milder with the proportion of cases to deaths, factoring the time lag. You all complain about modelling, but of course when there’s early real world data “ah it’s too small a sample, let’s just wait and see if more people die!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Ah shur you can see it. People just want good news posted. Not balanced realism. Realism isn't pessimism. But as I said 410 in hospital today is due to work done weeks ago about the Delta variant. If there was no Omicron it would be current great news. It may prove to be good news if Omicron amounts to nothing. But that's a big if.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If you're looking at the UK, they have a big unvaccinated problem. If you're talking about here, 68% have underlying conditions, age being one of them. The assumptions in our models are flawed or even wrong and they have not been anywhere near indicating the level of more severe cases, since the summer at least, and probably for most of this year. Models can be useful but as our inaccurate models are used to dictate NPHET advice and consequently government actions they do need to be challenged and dismissed if needs be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    London will almost definitely go to lockdown, if not the rest of the UK.

    By all accounts from people there, you go anywhere there are other people and you're nearly guaranteed to pick it up.

    A few thousand will be arriving home this weekend and next week, so coming to a house party near you soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    The UK seem to have serious testing capacity. I wonder around 100k cases will it reach its limits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    90,418 new cases today in UK, down from yesterday's 93K, now up to 7 Omicron deaths.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    1,510,532 negatives tests recorded in the UK yesterday. Funny how no one mentions that.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Tom_Crean


    Agree 100%. How can the models be so poor.

    I suppose the November and December predictions couldn't be near right when boosters weren't accounted for!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    I’m actually over here (London) at the moment and got my booster here. Hoping to head back to Dublin to see the family before Christmas but really up in the air whether I can get home given how everything is going. Bit of a dilemma.

    Anyway, they were struggling with PCR testing capacity one day during the week but they seemed to iron that out. They have run out of delivery capacity for antigen tests. Over here you can order free antigen tests, box of 7 tests once per day, which will be delivered to you. But demand has gone so high they can’t deliver them all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    But of course ignore the real world data of the amount of unvaccinated in London for example, the earlier vaccination in the uk meaning earlier waning and the fact they still don’t really have many restrictions in the uk and haven’t had for months.

    Data, huh!



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