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Complaint and offence culture cancels a childrens' toy

  • 10-12-2021 9:01pm
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    very disturbing to read this. assorted cranks and their complaints have resulted in a Doll being removed from sale.

    The toy and the marketing seem fairly innocuous. It seems some people have a problem with the word "adoption".

    "Brown Thomas Arnotts entirely agree that the experience of adoption has been varied in Ireland, and we take on board the views expressed in the programme.

    "To that end, we will today stop selling the FAO adoption dolls in all Brown Thomas and Arnotts stores,” Brown Thomas Arnotts told Liveline.

    One person said it was “humiliating” to see adoption marketed as toys as the “adoption triangle comes with grief, pain and love” for adoptees and adoptive parents alike."

    Absolute sacks of misery all of them, so i do suppose they are perfectly at home on liveline



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭ Jequ0n

    Tbf if you are stupid enough to post controversial stuff while being identifiable that’s really on you.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

  • Adopting a doll is in no way comparable to adopting a baby. By all means, buy a doll, name it and wait for it to become a teenager.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭ Topgear on Dave

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ CPTM

    This story is annoying alright but that's a bit of a leap. What you're complaining about is them exaggerating something but then it does feel like you're exaggerating the consequences of it.

    If you are a decent person and work half-hard without being an idiot it's incredible difficult to lose your job in this country. This kind of stuff doesn't extend into anything any normal day to day person would care about. It does happen but normally with things which don't really matter, like kids toys or reality tv or tv personalities or tv shows or whatnot. If it stretched into a lot of decent people losing their jobs or homes or their kids being taken away or not getting educated or took away people's rights in general there would be uproar. Still though, they are annoying. But there are loads of annoying sects of people. Luckily the vast majority of people see what's really going on here and move on with their day. I prefer chatting to them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,477 ✭✭✭✭ One eyed Jack

    Assorted cranks? Yep.

    Very disturbing? Sounds like something an assorted crank would say tbh.

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,477 ✭✭✭✭ One eyed Jack

    “Too young to have babies of their own”

    Jaysis mate, that’s gonna ring in my ears for a while 😳

    Anyways, there’s a huge market for pre-loved dolls these days 🤔

    Difficult to take any of it seriously 🤨

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,477 ✭✭✭✭ One eyed Jack

    I think that Reddit poster is misrepresenting the issue tbh. It’s obvious the objections are to the commercialisation of adoption.

    Angelina Jolie has pledged to buy up all the stock anyways, and with the manufactured controversy they’ll be this years Christmas must-have toy.

    That reminds me, bad taste bears are back in business!

  • Posts: 18,752 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]

    Who buys toys in Brown Thomas anyway!

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭ ForestFire

    Sent in an email of compliant for the removal of this child's doll, which is meant to have only a positive influence for children's play, to take care of it in a loving way.

    I see they have a "EQUALITY, DIVERSITY & INCLUSION" policy, but obviously not if you happen to be adopted, because they don't see adoption in the same way.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭ silver2020

    It's FAO Schwarz concession.

    If you want something different, it's the place to go.

    This furore is over nothing. Pc madness.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    Langley , Virginia

  • Registered Users Posts: 33,069 ✭✭✭✭ Gatling

    There was a similar case involving someone trying to have rapeseed oil and related products banned and removed as they could bring back trauma to victims of sexual assaults

    Langley , Virginia

  • Registered Users Posts: 15,682 ✭✭✭✭ fritzelly

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭ Yurt2

    A fair perspective and one I'd take on board. I do know an adopted individual who has struggled with it, and I'm not sure how she'd feel. Still, point taken by the reddit contributer.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭ francois

    Tedious manufactured outrage.

  • I think possibly the way cabbage patch dolls describes it is better. Plus less in face. I guess it will vary based on the individual how they felt about adoption. Plus could equally be upsetting to those who put children up for adoption.

    Reminded somewhat of my mother tbh. Her parents died when she was young. Adopted by family members so adoption aspect was entirely positive. However mother's and father's day broke her heart every time it was made a big deal out of. Which included school. So like I can very much so understand the need for caution around how topics are approached.

    Also, always very predictable who starts these topics based on title...

  • Subscribers Posts: 37,211 ✭✭✭✭ sydthebeat

    I've two adopted children. There is a very real trend towards "blended" families away from the traditional family all across western society. This is just toys reflecting reality like loads of toy ranges have done down through the years. It isn't "commercialising" adoption any more than silvanian families commercialises having pets.

    Typical pandering to busibodies getting "offended" on others behalf.

  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 59,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Wibbs

    Maybe there was a more recent move on that front because of the terminally triggered, but the name change to canola oil is an old one in the US. Canola oil produced by Canada rebranded away from rape/rapeseed because of the word association selling it into America.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Predictable?. Only have about 5 OPs! What is predictable is the amount of sniping at the poster but not addressing the content of the post

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  • I addressed the post. It's a complex thing for many people and I have no issue with them being sold. I do understand how some people might be upset by it though. On top of that, this isn't cancel culture. It's just a brand reconsidering how a new product is marketed due to negative pr.

    Not remotely disturbing in the scheme of things.

    Fyi, you're one of a handful of posters who only opens threads to be outraged by PC gone mad etc. So it's like bingo guessing who has started the thread.