Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

04-12-2021 03:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118267592#Comment_118267592

I thought the Connacht non-try should have been given tbh, I don't see how it wasn't grounded, but I guess they actually need to see it given the on-field was no try. Very unlucky.

Blue4u · 05-12-2021 12:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118267466#Comment_118267466

It was handbags at best, yes I think it was Doris and it was off the ball but from the view I seen it wasn't in the face. Not sure why the player was down for a few minutes unless they though lying on the ground for a while would make the ref review the situation, nothing in it suggested he was hurt

Now I could be wrong as watching without the replay function on the TV but that was my view

Former Coach · 05-12-2021 11:56PM

Stade 25 La Rochelle 20

Tough match ahead next Sunday!

Zeugnis · 06-12-2021 03:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118256989#Comment_118256989

Any idea what happened to Dowling? Fifita started instead and I wondered if it was due to a knock of just a late change?

I thought Burke did reasonably well again, Alaalatoa seemed to be constantly in the ref's ear about him, but IIRC Leinster just got the one scrum penalty (Aungier under pressure from Porter).

Overall I felt it was a decent display by Connacht, especially give they were understrength. A couple of decisions didn't go their way (the McNulty and Dev try calls), but didn't determine the result. Leinster's top talent really showed their stuff (JVDF, Doris, Porter, Sheahan).

Utopia Parkway · 06-12-2021 09:10PM

Some how the last night I completely missed that there was a camera angle that shows McNulty grounding the ball. Only seeing it on the Monday highlights here. Pretty bad miss by the TMO.

ShineyShiney · 06-12-2021 10:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118279938#Comment_118279938

Same, nailed on try. Poor from the tmo

testtech05 · 07-12-2021 09:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118279938#Comment_118279938

Saw the same angle on against the head last night, cant say I remember it being shown from that angle on TG4 on Friday night.

Blue4u · 07-12-2021 09:28AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118279938#Comment_118279938

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118280329#Comment_118280329

The grounding from McNulty was never in question as far as I was concerned, the question was if Baird grounded the ball prior to him. In the end they said Baird grounded the ball so it didn't matter what mcNulty did after that. They showed the angle on Premier which clearly showed him grounding the ball

KBurke85 · 07-12-2021 10:58AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118282209#Comment_118282209

The TMO said that Baird hadn't grounded the ball but they had no clear sight of McNulty grounding the ball.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter and most likely wasn't going tp change the result of the game.

Jump_In_Jack · 07-12-2021 11:21AM

They seemed to slow down the video at a point where the ball was under Baird's thigh for a second, did they rule that the ball was touched down off his leg?

Other than that I couldn't see why that was given as a grounding, even at that it's a poor call in my opinion.

Zeugnis · 07-12-2021 12:44PM

When Hansen scored his try from the crossfield kick, there was clear contact in the air from Larmour who never managed to get up to contest. Had MH not scored, surely there would have been a penalty? Given that he did score, would the logic behind not sanctioning him be that it was not dangerous enough to warrant a yellow? Or does the fact of a score result in the ref ignoring the infraction?

(I don't think there was any malice in it and a card would seem unjust but... rules?).

Lost Ormond · 07-12-2021 01:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118283377#Comment_118283377

No. It wasnt dangerous. Look at how hansen jumped for the ball. no if hansen hadnt scored it wouldnt have been a penalty and no that there was a score means ref will just ignore the penalty offence.

realhorrorshow · 07-12-2021 01:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118283377#Comment_118283377

This always pisses me off. Play should have restarted with a penalty on halfway and a yellow/red card as appropriate. Once a try is scored refs/TMOs seem to have no interest in any high tackles/knee slides etc that preceded.

In other news, Oisin Dowling and Jack Aungier have signed contract extensions.

Former Former Former · 07-12-2021 01:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118283642#Comment_118283642

Larmour didn't do anything wrong though. He didn't wrap around Hansen in the air, he didn't get underneath him, he didn't upend him. The contact happened because of Hansen jumping, Larmour didn't have to get out of the way.

The ref got it right.

connachta · 07-12-2021 01:33PM

So who's on the card for Europe

Farrell for Arnold, the latter covering wing and centre from the bench n°23

Robb 12, does ok and no other choices but Forde (i'd take the risk to list him as n°22 covering 10/12 instead of C.Fitz though)

Bolton should be tried at 12 too à la DeAllende but not this time

Dowling back in, always solid

Prendergast for Masterson as 6, happey with Butler 8 Oliver 7 on form. Mastersons' battle for 20, or Big Papa

Blade 9, 50/50 but love what it brings in rucks

I hope Porch is ok, to play FB as Hansen/Wootton are nailed on the wings

Maybe Tuimauga'a on the bench...

And N.Murray competing to get the 19 spot with Fifita'a

RichieRich_89 · 07-12-2021 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118283377#Comment_118283377

Yeah, clearcut penalty try for me if Hansen hadn't scored.

Luckycharm · 07-12-2021 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118284736#Comment_118284736

Penalty for Leinster for Hansen nearly Kneeing Larmour in the head 😉 Larmour barely touched him and only reason contact was because hansen jumped into him.

RichieRich_89 · 07-12-2021 04:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118284783#Comment_118284783

He ran in and pushed him while he was in the air. It doesn't look malicious or even particularly dangerous, but it's still illegal.

aloooof · 07-12-2021 05:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118283733#Comment_118283733

It's definitely a penalty tho, once Hansen is in the air and Larmour collides with him, just not yellow for me.

I suppose an argument is that refs would play penalty advantage? In which case, try was scored so carry on with conversion.

KBurke85 · 07-12-2021 05:55PM

Team news

Connacht head into the game without the services of Bundee Aki, who continues to rehab the knee injury he sustained during the November internationals.

Meanwhile Paul Boyle will be out of action for a number of weeks with shoulder and Achilles injuries. Denis Buckley (knee), Tom Daly (knee) and Gavin Thornbury (shoulder) are all said to be progressing well with their respective injuries, and the trio will look to return to team training over the next month.

https://www.the42.ie/connacht-stade-francais-andy-friend-5622517-Dec2021/

realhorrorshow · 07-12-2021 06:44PM

Loosehead

Denis Buckley (32) - Signed contract in 2021

Matthew Burke (25) - Signed contract in 2021

Jordan Duggan (24) - Signed contract in 2021

Tietie Tuimauga (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Charlie Ward (22) - Academy year 2

Tighthead

Jack Aungier (23) - Signed contract in 2022

Finlay Bealham (31) - Signed contract in 2021

Sam Illo (21) - Signed 2 year contract in 2021

Greg McGrath (25) - Signed contract in 2021

Dominic Robertson-McCoy (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Hooker

Shane Delahunt (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Dave Heffernan (31) - Signed contract in 2021

Jonny Murphy (30) - Signed contract in 2021

Dylan Tierney-Martin (23) - Signed contract in 2021

Declan Adamson (23) - Academy year 3

Eoin De Buitléar (20) - Academy year 2

Lock

Ultan Dillane (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Oisin Dowling (25) - Signed contract in 2022

Leva Fifita (33) - Signed contract in 2021

Niall Murray (22) - Signed contract in 2021

Gavin Thornbury (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Darragh Murray (21) - Academy year 2

Back row

Paul Boyle (25) - Signed contract in 2021

Jarrad Butler (31) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Eoghan Masterson (29) - Signed contract in 2021

Sean Masterson (24) - Signed contract in 2021

Conor Oliver (26) - Signed contract in 2021

Abraham Papali’i (29) - Signed contract in 2021

Cian Prendergast (22) - Signed contract in 2021

Ciaran Booth (22) - Academy year 2

Donnacha Byrne (21) - Academy year 2

Oisin McCormack (21) - Academy year 3

Scrumhalf

Caolin Blade (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Kieran Marmion (30) - Signed 3 year contract in 2020

Colm Reilly (23) - Signed contract in 2021

Will Reilly (u22) - Academy year 1

Outhalf

Jack Carty (30) - Signed 3 year contract in 2022

Conor Fitzgerald (24) - Signed contract in 2021

Cathal Forde (20) - Academy year 2

Centre

Bundee Aki (32) - Signed 3 year central contract in 2020

Shayne Bolton (22) - Signed contract in 2021

Tom Daly (29) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Tom Farrell (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Peter Robb (28) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Shane Jennings (21) - Academy year 3

Back 3

Mack Hansen (24) - Signed 2 year contract in 2021

Matt Healy (33) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

Oran McNulty (22) - Signed contract in 2021

Ben O'Donnell (27) - Signed contract in 2020

Tiernan O'Halloran (31) - Signed 2 year contract in 2020

John Porch (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Peter Sullivan (24) - Signed contract in 2021

Alex Wootton (28) - Signed contract in 2021

Diarmuid Kilgallen (22) - Academy year 2

Josh O'Connor (21) - Academy year 1

IN:

OUT: Sammy Arnold (Centre, Brive)

*ages as at 01/09/2022

realhorrorshow · 07-12-2021 07:02PM

Definitely out of contract

Dominic Robertson-McCoy (Tighthead)

Jarrad Butler (Back row)

Caolin Blade (Scrumhalf)

Tom Daly (Centre)

Tom Farrell (Centre)

Peter Robb (Centre)

Matt Healy (Back 3)

Tiernan O'Halloran (Back 3)

Probably out of contract - signed contract of unspecified length in 2020

Ben O'Donnell (Wing)

Possibly out of contract signed contract of unspecified length in 2021

Denis Buckley (Loosehead)

Matthew Burke (Loosehead)

Jordan Duggan (Loosehead)

Tietie Tuimauga (Loosehead)

Finlay Bealham (Tighthead)

Greg McGrath (Tighthead)

Shane Delahunt (Hooker)

Dave Heffernan (Hooker)

Jonny Murphy (Hooker)

Dylan Tierney-Martin (Hooker)

Leva Fifita (Lock)

Niall Murray (Lock)

Gavin Thornbury (Lock)

Paul Boyle (Back row)

Eoghan Masterson (Back row)

Sean Masterson (Back row)

Conor Oliver (Back row)

Abraham Papali’i (Back row)

Cian Prendergast (Back row)

Colm Reilly (Scrumhalf)

Conor Fitzgerald (Outhalf)

Shayne Bolton (Centre)

Oran McNulty (Back 3)

John Porch (Back 3)

Peter Sullivan (Back 3)

Alex Wootton (Back 3)

Academy year 3

Declan Adamson (Hooker)

Oisin McCormack (Back row)

Shane Jennings (Centre)

Dubinusa · 07-12-2021 07:08PM

I think Matt Healy will retire. Tom Daly should be a priority for a new contract!

ClanofLams · 08-12-2021 11:41AM

Thought Connacht played pretty well in Dublin despite score line. Unlucky not to get bonus point. Carty’s excellent kick when 5-0 up that could have easily bounced for 50-22 and five yard line out but instead bounced dead for Leinster scrum inside Connacht half was a big moment. I expect Leinster would have won anyway but it would have been interesting if Connacht could have got ten or twelve up.

Suprised to see Connacht 5-6 point favourites for game v Stade. I don’t follow french league so don’t know much about them but see they beat La Rochelle last week and presume they have the standard massive pack. I give Connacht a fair chance but would have expected 50-50 odds instead of Connacht being clear favourites.

connachta · 09-12-2021 11:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118286030#Comment_118286030

That's why we should retain O'Donnell IMO

KBurke85 · 10-12-2021 12:58PM

CONNACHT RUGBY MATCHDAY 23 VS STADE FRANCAIS

Sunday 12th December, The Sportsground @ 13:00

Number/Name/Caps

15. Oran McNulty (4)

14. Alex Wootton (24)

13. Shayne Bolton (1)

12. Sammy Arnold (22)

11. Mack Hansen (7)

10. Jack Carty (166) (C)

9. Kieran Marmion (193)

1. Matthew Burke (30)

2. Shane Delahunt (107)

3. Finlay Bealham (166)

4. Oisín Dowling (12)

5. Niall Murray (22)

6. Cian Prendergast (15)

7. Conor Oliver (27)

8. Jarrad Butler (80)

Replacements

16. Dave Heffernan (151)

17. Jordan Duggan (19)

18. Dominic Robertson-McCoy (69)

19. Leva Fifita (3)

20. Seán Masterson (14)

21. Caolin Blade (137)

22. Conor Fitzgerald (41)

23. Tom Farrell (66)

Zeugnis · 10-12-2021 02:21PM

No Papa Leahy again, strange. The Master of None podcast interviewed him this week¸worth a listen:

https://anchor.fm/stephen-murphy8/episodes/A-chat-with-Abraham-Papalii-e1b3ggq

Jump_In_Jack · 10-12-2021 03:48PM

Is Dillane injured?

Saw an article on RTÉ mention Dillane is absent, whatever that means.

KBurke85 · 10-12-2021 04:58PM

https://twitter.com/connachtrugby/status/1469334007531941890

Some more changes. Hanson Fifita and Farrell drop out of the 23

realhorrorshow · 10-12-2021 05:33PM

Not a particularly strong team, reaching well down the depth chart up front and at centre. Have no idea what to expect really, haven't seen Stade play for a long time. Should be a great occasion anyway, great to have top flight European rugby back in front of a crowd at the Sports ground.

Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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