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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I do not share the scepticism Re Moderna

    A booster shot of that will either increase antibodies or it won't

    It will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Thats study is 1 pfizer followed by 1 Moderna. Its not really relevant to todays situation.

    Im waiting for Moderna to produce their study on how 3x moderna do. All ive seen from them so far is their CEO saying he doesnt think it will be effective against Omicron. And even then i'll be 2 x pfizer plus 1 x moderna, which as you say im not likely to see studys.

    So far all ive seen about Omicron is Pfizer x 3 works well. Its all i have to go on for my situation.

    But yes, I cant believe im thinking like this either, but I am.

    So scientific or not, im willing to go 3x pfizer because there is science on it, but nothing else until there is science on it.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There's no shortage of science. There are several studies now that show mixing is perfectly safe and provides just as good protection (even slightly better in some cases). One funded by the NIH in the States and just last week CovBoost in the UK.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02717-3/fulltext



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,367 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    But my problem is that we dont know if Pfizerx2 + moderna is effective against omicron. We do know that pfizer x3 is.

    So i'll wait for the pfizer x 3. Anything else is just wishful thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,409 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Sinovac is already whole inactivated virus, look up its efficacy. Hopefully valneva is better (likely using an adjuvant to stimulate the immune system more) but the British weren't confident a few months ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Mac_Lad71


    I tested positive for Covid on the 20th of November. I have completed my isolation period and my symptoms have improved thankfully.

    I was double vaccinated with Pfizer and this mitigated against hospitalisation although i was still quite ill mainly with cough and gastric symptoms.

    I am now eligible for my booster shot but HSE says I need to wait 6 months.

    The medical advice in US and UK says the waiting time for a booster should be 4 weeks from the date of infection provided you have no symptoms.

    My breakthrough infection occurred 5 months after my second dose of the vaccine and I don't want to gamble on natural immunity withh the new Omicron variant.

    Any thoughts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 343 ✭✭Shilock




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,776 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’m booked in on Saturday for a Moderna booster having had Pfizer 1 & 2 vaccines.... The are literally dozens of articles all over the web from medical sources that say Moderna is good against omicron and better then Pfizer x3 and others contradict saying Pfizer x3 is best...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,389 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Further to my post above, another text arrives saying that I should get a booster, except this time it says that I can wait for them to offer an appointment. No indication whatsoever as to when that would be, of course. So I go back to the pharmacy list, find that the place that I had my flu jab is now listed for Covid, but when I go to their website I cannot book that branch. So I phpne them and they say they are not doing Covid jabs, despite being on the list. They do give the name of another pharmacy locally which I had not tried as the HSE websirte says they are only doing flu jabs. They don't have a booking system either, but they might phone me back.

    All in all they are doing a poor job on the booking side of things and there isn't much need for this mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    An additional day for walk-ins tomorrow in City Hall, Cork.

    Cork City Hall's walk-in vaccination clinic will be offering only Moderna booster vaccines to those aged 50–69 from 11 am to 5 pm on Friday, 10th December.


    Hopefully will reduce the possible queues on Saturday/Sunday.


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    ^^^ Anyone go to Cork City Hall today? How where the queues?



    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    With hour long queues reported for there today, is this just a photo op, instead of him actually queuing up?


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,043 ✭✭✭✭fits


    update from himself

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,392 ✭✭✭corkie


    At city hall since 9:05 and the queue is all around the block.


    10:00 Half around the block, so queue time is over an hour.


    10:15 at the sheltered part of the queue.


    10:30 check in



    10:40 Jabbed and now the wait to leave






    16:00 Five hours after the Jab and feeling fine, maybe a slight raise in temp after it.




    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Anyone have a list of the walk in centres around the country,?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,201 ✭✭✭amandstu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321


    I'd be pretty sure that an unboosted over 70 could use a walk-in centre now.

    The assumption was that the GPs who did their first vaxxes would boost or refer to an MVC.

    But if they haven't been boosted yet, they'd be top priority and unlikely to be turned away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭jos28


    Does anyone know what the story is with Croke Park. I planned to drop in there during the week but the HSE site is currently saying

    We are not doing booster walk-in clinics at this centre right now.

    Same message for DCU too ???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321



    That's just today, and probably tomorrow.

    Likely to be open on Monday.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    It's updated now for Croke Park.

    Keep an eye on the site as its updated regularly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭jos28


    Thanks folks, I didn't realise they updated it regularly. I'll keep a eye on it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,078 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    I was done as a walk I at UCD two weeks ago, when it was no being advertised as a walk in. A friend was done same way a week later. They said at the door that they would accommodate as many as possible. But I don't know if other centres would do the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Headline on RTE.IE just now: "HSE examining ways to offer boosters to people aged 40-48 by next weekend".

    Well what a surprise. We have known for a couple of weeks that as many boosters as possible should be given before Christmas. We also should have some lessons learned from the earlier mass-vaccination programme. Why does the HSE only now (apparently) start examining ways to do something urgent?

    And why does everyone have to wait for NIAC to ponder over things which have been pretty well settled by other countries. Some of these decisions should take hours, not weeks.

    Bring back Professor McCraith and his team.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Issue is 1000's of HSE staff out with covid and trained jabbers having to go back to their original jobs

    No easy fix for that



  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    You don’t see the benefit of an ordered role out by age groups? Personally I’m glad we are taking a considered approach rather than following the gang. A few weeks ago posters here were lauding the UK approach, the situation has changed far more rapidly there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,210 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Yes I do see the benefit of an ordered age-related rollout, just like was done over the Summer. That's why I wonder at the HSE seemingly waiting so long to figure things out. As for the shortage of trained vaccinators, are we making full use of non-HSE vaccinators? And the multiple-booking carry-on does not inspire confidence in the HSE rollout. That's why I asked where is the organiser of last Summer's mass vaccination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭airy fairy


    The people overseeing the summer vaccination seem to have left the building and it feels like we're just in a mess with everything.

    Why could this booster rollout not have been forseen? Are they utterly thick in the hse?

    I see a headline on rte saying the government are looking into the best way to roll out the next cohort 40+. Am I missing something, but hasn't this cohort been tried, tested and been successful already? What's the difference now? Can they not copy and repeat?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    All ages over 50 are now eligible to get boosters, 50-59 group alone is 400K so you'd expect a bit of a scrum to get them done. Some GPs have opted out of it altogether having their hands full of not-COVID patients. They are supposed to refer on to the HSE anyone they jabbed in summer but are not doing now. Clearly the whole system is not working as efficiently as earlier in the year.



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  • Posts: 14,708 [Deleted User]


    The vaccinators who were working earlier in the year have gone back to work, and as another poster has pointed out, many GPs are not providing vaccinations due to the affect of the provision of care to other patients and the stresses placed on them by people who want the vaccine now and don’t understand what is involved in vaccinating huge numbers of people.



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