Gaming Laptop ~€1200

try to find a deal on a legion 5 with 5600h or better (avoid the 4-core intel i7's) and 3060

3060 performance also varies by what TDP power level it's running at - ideally 110W+

screen quality is another consideration - poor response times mean latency. colour accuracy is nice to have but not as vital for gaming but useful for photo-editing etc

e.g. the Acer Nitros are good value but the standard 144Hz screen is poor in terms of screen response times (not related to Hz value) and colour accuracy and the 3060 runs at under 100W TDP

The Legion 5 runs the 3060 at a good TDP and but the 120Hz screen is not that great in terms of response times either upon investigation.

actually this is as good a price as you'd get really at just under 1k sterling - with 3% extra Irish VAT will be just around your budget

there is a 165Hz screen (brighter and more colour accurate) but you're not going to get it at that price I don't think. in some markets there is a 144Hz screen that's also decent.

in your budget range you're always going to be compromising really. that's just the reality of it.

it's £1300 for the 3070 card and the better screen (out-of-stock)

here's the answer imo

€1167 for 5600h, 3060, 16gb ram, AND AN ACTUAL GOOD SCREEN - fast response times, bright colour-accurate

spare m.2 slot for another ssd if required.

easily the best balance in the budget range that I've seen

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/hewlett-packard-hp-victus-ryzen-5-5600h-16gb-512gb-ssd-16-inch-rtx-3060-win-4q5s2ea/version.asp

that 17 inch nitro has an ok screen - not great but ok response times - better than the 15 inch version 144Hz screen

it's a 3070 card so better than 3060

here's a comprehensive review

seems ok

keyboard difficult to sell in Ireland if reselling - could sell abroad tho

would annoy me personally - everyone is different in that regard

ask amazon chat if any chance of a uk keyboard or dutch keyboard version (dutch same as uk pretty much)

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Nitro-5-AN517-41-in-review-GeForce-RTX-3070-on-the-back-burner.553925.0.html

tbh this looks very very good value for 1160 euro or so and has a normal keyboard

lenovo own medion - laptops are good

decent cpu, nvidia 3060 card that runs at a good 115w and decent screen (probably better than the one in the nitro)

would play games for the next 5 years fine at 1080p / full hd

https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/medion-defender-nh77epy-m-ryzen-5-5800h-16gb-512gb-ssd-rtx-3060-17.3-inch-w-30031892/version.asp

Cheers for the coffee

if you go to trustpilot for any electronics company pretty much it's the same - only people with an issue go there to complain.

I personally wouldn't be worrying about it.

you'd be dealing with laptopsdirect I think anyways

most of medion's medium and higher end laptops are rebrands on Clevo and Tongfang laptops which are good quality

that one is a Clevo laptop

this one I think

https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/purpose/gaming-esport-ready/6031/clevo-nh79epy-17.3-fhd-ips-144hz-amd-ryzen-7-5800h-nvidia-rtx-3060

they rebrand cheap laptops also -issues more likely to be there

https://www.hagglezon.com/en/s/medion%20laptop