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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Should everybody with those views be imprisoned? Or just teachers with those views?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Fair enough, thanks for answering. I get you now. I was genuinely curious as I couldn't see where you were going with it (maybe because it was past my bedtime!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sounds like you are looking for your own personal echo chamber. People who do not subscribe to your views are not antivax and it's a sign of a lazy mind that can't distinguish between those who oppose vaccination, the real anti-vaxxers and those who have questions about measures being utilised by government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    yeah all a big conspiracy to keep Covid underwraps

    they're all involved in it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭prunudo


    What's more shocking, is that a teacher doesn't allow people have or discuss opposing views.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Lol. If you are being serious with that comment, then I suggest you read back on the comments about the video and then watch the video yourself.

    Honestly. It is getting concerning now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭prunudo


    You want people to see what you see in the video. Anyone that doesn't share your view are 'completely incapable of understanding the video'.

    But thank you for your concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Well, seeing what is actually there is always useful, but yeah, go ahead and just make stuff up.

    It is basic comprehension though. And if someone can't do that, maybe they need to worry less about what their kids are wearing in school and think more about going back themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,236 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    There is though. Or does an old sock magically become a mask when it's placed over a dolls face? Do young kids really understand the nuance and that it's just a "normalisation exercise" and not a thing that is supposed to be done?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Why would anyone think that newspaper is a reliable source. People need to grow up and be more sceptical of such publications.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,228 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I find children know what a mask is and how it is not a sock.


    Its "adults" that seem to struggle with recognising a mask and get masks confused with gags,muzzles,socks and nappies.



  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    UK government advice, leaked last week, said at least 5 more years of this before become endemic and predictable (was headline in the UK Times). Makes it more important that Ireland moves beyond shutting down sectors of the economy as a response



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭Danye


    Regarding the kids wearing masks, what’s the plan here? Are they only wearing them until their vaccinated or are they part of everyday life for the children for the foreseeable?

    As we can see with the adults, vaccination status doesn’t stop you getting or transmitting the virus, it only helps with preventing serious illness. If the kids who contract Covid aren’t becoming ill, what’s the overall plan?

    Are masks more than just a temporary solution with children?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Looks like we're still in panic mode atm here

    Stage 2 - the scary variant stage

    Not sustainable as you say indefinitely. I'm depending on the UK to provide a reference for us in all this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    I think the point of masks at this moment in time is because they are trying to keep the schools open, but they have a 'close contacts must isolate for 10 days regardless of vaccination status' thing going on, which is having an impact on absenteeism among teachers, therefore leading to local closures.

    It seems to be a result of higher case numbers, intro of new variant, change in govt health advice and the winter season all happening at once.

    It wasn't needed before they introduced the 'isolate close contacts' rule, so I can't see them being necessary once that is done away with again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Part of the trouble with what's going on is it is something we've been doing for 20 months, just reacting to the circumstances of this virus and there is no sign of an exit plan. In May 2020 we saw one with all those different levels and stages. We moved through each one of them pretty much as promised even if later last year it turned into made-up jigsaw levels. Since then it's been all about what NPHET models say, unfortunately.

    There's no real way to present an exit plan at present but at the same time this government really does not look like it's prepared to prepare one either. What looks more likely to happen is that some random day in 2022 things will suddenly look like normal. That's just not the way to do things and the ease with which some people have switched their brains to an imminent lockdown mode is not at all surprising.

    I suppose we urgently need to see some information about Omicron and the actual risk it may pose but we also need to see signs early in the New Year that the government can come up with an exit plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Imprisoned?

    If we were to imprison people for spreading misinformation since Covid began, half of Ireland would be in prison. And RTE and NPHET and the Dail! And most posters on Boards (Beasty would have no more threads to create) 😂

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭The Nu man in town


    We are not "trying to keep the schools open"

    With just over 100 in ICU and at that being stable we are a long way from closing schools.

    Suggesting schools are on a knifedge to being closed is just more trying to scare people into imposing a self imposed lockdown on themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭bloopy


    It is blatant and dangerous.

    What the **** are the Irish media up to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    They are trying to keep the schools open. If teachers are absent due to being close contacts, they can't come to work. If enough teachers can't come to work, they can't find the subs and they won't get rid of the 'isolate for 10 days as a close contact' idea, then the schools will close. The kids can't sit in unsupervised rooms.

    There is a staffing crisis because so many are out and sitting at home as close contacts. They weren't doing this before that 'close contact isolates for 10 days regardless of vaccination status'

    If it isn't about keeping the schools open, then why is school the only environment that children at this age group are being asked to wear masks in?

    Suggesting that there is some ulterior motive to it is either bandwagon hopping or we are back to making stuff up.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Reddit is built to be an echo chamber. Pretty much every sub regardless of topic ends up that way. A consensus is reached in time, then becomes dogma and any deviation from that is downvoted to oblivion so you never get to read it. I've even seen this in play on motoring subs for feck's sake. 😂 The Irish sub is very much slanted to a particular script and that's fine, but not surprising. Forums like Boards are far better as far as contrary opinions go. They may be in the minority, but they're hard to avoid unless you're one of those eejits that has any triggering poster on an extensive ignore list. Then again forums have fallen off a cliff in popularity and IMHO it's because people actually prefer to operate in echo chambers of the like minded and don't like contrary opinions to disturb them. Being exposed to contrary opinions and debating them I fear was a short blip on the interwebs.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    Then why demonstrate on a new born doll ?

    “a little odd” ?

    It was off the wall , agenda filled , brainwashing is what it was.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Much more like media types need something to fill air time on daytime TV, bring on simpleton to be interviewed by simpleton to be viewed by coffee morning simpletons in nodding agreement and every so often you get car crash TV which gets attention, and it did.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,295 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Because most people don't have full size anatomically correct mannequins lying around the place?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Listening to the Brendan o Conor show at the moment ,nphet getting a right bashing here and rightfully so,Dan O Brien speaking a lot of sense,Brendan as like most of RTÉ pushing this agenda and defending nphet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Listening to news talk there with Gavan Reilly, David Cullinane is an absolute tool! Not once did he blame Nphet for anything! All the government, slow with antigen, slow with schools etc! It was all public health advice and snake oil Nolan driving their own agendas! Sinn Fein are another useless bunch of twats! Populist politics! Reilly kept saying it was Public health advice, in one ear and out the other with cullinane!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    There isn't a show worth listening to on newstalk imo. Awful radio station.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I find Brendan quite balanced actually. He does try to play devils advocate but he is nobody's fool.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    like them or loathe them, the likes of Ivan Yates and George Hook at least had some punch. It’s a flimsy enough line up now



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