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All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    If you honestly believe all of that drivel I pity you. To go through life being that paranoid about everything takes a huge amount of effort. What happened to you to make you see the world we live in through such a warped lens?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Tell me about it, I have to wear a mask during a pandemic, it's like North Korea. Will you go meekly along with your new jackbooted overlords or will you be fighting with the resistance?

    Who do you reckon will have a better social credit score when all this finally happens, me or you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    In fairness, it’s not just paranoia. Narcissism is a big character trait for speculative fantasists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭deceit


    Well then its a future that they want to happen along with other powerful elites such as the ones I mention along with the EU. Here's Leo parating the build back better slogan and the new normal while also saying we are not out of the woods yet so have to keep the "Absolutely bonkers and draconian" measures in place. What they all never say is when we will ever get these measures removed. With us dealing with a new variant every year its comes to stand these measures will never be removed as the Virus will not disappear, we are stuck with it.


    Leo calls his own lockdown “absolutely bonkers” & “draconian” - Gript



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I haven’t seen any videos of people dropping dead in the street but I’m sure it happens every day. You spend all day on fake websites and can’t tell the difference between fake and real, so I won’t be taking your word on anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    So according to you masks don't reduce the spread of Covid at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    You must be wearing these ;

    rose-colored glasses. plural noun. a happy or positive attitude that fails to notice negative things, leading to a view of life that is NOT realistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Gript is another far right blog site, this is the second time now.

    Let's have a look at the context:

    “If the Deputy had told me two years ago that we would live in a country where it was illegal to leave or enter the State for non-essential reasons, that one could not have visitors to one’s house or could not meet outside with more than 15 people, I would have thought he was absolutely bonkers,” Varadkar said.

    I fully agree, without knowing there was a pandemic, it does sound bonkers. But note how the author deceptively and dishonestly twists this to make it seem like Varadkar is criticising his own policy.

    Here is the full context

    "The sooner we can repeal that legislation, the better, in my view. If the Deputy had told me two years ago that we would live in a country where it was illegal to leave or enter the State for non-essential reasons, that one could not have visitors to one's house or could not meet outside with more than 15 people, I would have thought he was absolutely bonkers. What has happened in the past year or two is unprecedented. We overuse that term but what has happened in the past year really is unprecedented. We want to go to a new normal and build back better, as people say, but one thing I definitely do not want to keep on the Statute Book for any longer than is necessary is this draconian legislation. Unfortunately, it is still necessary. We are not out of the woods yet and that is why we will have to extend it. There will be proper debate on that in the Dáil and I encourage Deputies to speak freely on this issue. They should not feel that they are against public health or something if they raise these concerns. Civil liberties matter. Concerns about civil liberties have almost disappeared in the past year or so and that bothers me."

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/joint_committee_on_enterprise_trade_and_employment/2021-05-19/2/

    Also, I notice you haven't addressed my questions at all, here they are again

    What is going to happen in 2030 according to you?

    Who are the Irish politicians who want a Chinese style "social credit" system and the direct evidence for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I'm just waiting until they start staging fake coups (like you find in african nations or Turkey) by "alt-right, Q-anon, yellow vest anti-semite neo nazi white supremecists" to really get people into the psyche of compliance.

    People's biggest fear these days is to be seen as someone who doesn't think with the crowd/mob. We see idiotic movements popping up left, right and centre designed in a way that ruins people's lives if they are not seen to participate. People getting ostracized for not taking the knee or declaring their pronouns. Never in the history of our civilization has there been a good movement that punished those for not participating. Same goes for the vaccines.

    I really pity children and generations of the near future who have all this nonsense now programmed into their brains. At least we have a few wholesome and innocent years under our belt that we can cherish and long for again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Is there a word that can describe a mixture of paranoia and melodrama?



  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭brianhere


    In this case, the truth!

    http://www.orwellianireland.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "I'll validate your paranoid delusions about the world if you validate mine"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭deceit


    No one truely knows whats going to happen by 2030, if I knew what would happen in 2030 I'm sure I could make millions on it. What these people would like is a reset of our lives in which they gain more control and we lose more rights such as the right to bodily autonomy, less access to meat for the betterment of the climate among other issues.

    I'm just curious what do you think of china's social credit system and would you be okay with living under it? Also would you be okay if we did get to a stage were the great reset talking points were actually implemented?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    China's social credit system is horrendous, and Xi Jinping's policies are hugely unpopular outside of China. And it's not like they have much of a choice inside China as they essentially live in a party dictatorship. Thankfully I don't live in China, so it's not an issue for me.

    You are referring to the conspiracy interpretation of the economic forum, which is rife with silly interpretations and paranoid misunderstandings


    I take it you can't provide any evidence that any specific Irish politicians support the social credit system and are secretly working to implement it in our representative democracy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭deceit


    I glanced over the bbc article and they reference the wrong video altogether that caused the issue in the first place to try deflect from what was the actual issue. They have been trying their best to get rid of the video but in the sky news australia youtube video you can see snippets of it in that video from a minute onwards.

    I'm curious would you be saying, I take it you can't provide evidence that these politicians would support multiple years of lockdowns until they happened?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    So the vast vast vast majority of the people on this planet see the world through rose tinted glasses and the incredibly small fringe group you and your comrades in arms belong to are the only ones who see the truth of the world? I'll see your rose tinted glasses and raise you paranoia.

    Paranoia

    a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically worked into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality.

    Similar:

    persecution complex

    delusions

    obsession

    megalomania

    monomania

    psychosis

    unjustified suspicion and mistrust of other people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Lads it's just two weeks to flatten the curve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    There is no issue apart from a weird conspiracy theory is some people heads who can’t critically think. 2030 would be an impossibility for what conspiracy theorists claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Do you honestly think they should have just let it rip after a 2 week lockdown? No conspiracy nonsense...just use your own judgement on what you have seen from around the world over the past 2 years. What exactly do you think would have happened?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    You don't see any need to share but you feel you are qualified to ask everyone else? I've also seen you foul-mouth people's religious beliefs, not to mention their personal health status too. I'm sure psychologists have names for such despicable behavior - but sounds like you are under the impression that you are of a higher status than others based on some kind of bizarre belief system that you claim revolves around science. But, in reality, is little more than a false sense of comradery you obtain through insulting people who don't think the same way you do.

    Something for you to think about



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    If you have an issue with a poster then please report the posts. That’s what the report function is for, and is more effective than a rant that we all get subjected to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Please.. If the report function worked on the conspiracy forum, it wouldn't be the cesspit it is now. We've been through this in the feedback forum. And besides, I'm not trigger-happy on the report button like some in this thread. Let us not forget the time the harmless cartoon got reported... 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    The poster misunderstood reality with the cartoon, and so it was used incorrectly as an attack on posters. I didn’t report it but I can understand why it was reported.

    However, every rant you make about moderation, other posters etc is starting to look foolish. Contact admin directly if you are having issues. Beasty engaged in the thread that conspiracy theorists threw the toys out of the pram, tried to get conversations stopped and then abandoned the thread without considering the suggestions made by one of your comrade. Keep the head and be constructive when engaging with admin and moderators though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    Ha! You must be joking. The feedback thread was doomed to the same tactics used in every thread in the conspiracy forum - 99% of posts being drivel from the same 4 or 5 posters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I can’t wait wait for the decision on what to do with the forum. CT’ists tried to shut down the feedback, and the forum. Not a great approach to take. 😊

    Anyway, you’ve successfully detailed this topic again. To get back on topic, what measures are permanent and to what benefit for the individual TD’s?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The feedback thread where all the conspiracy theorists were crying because they couldn't have thier little safe space? That feed back thread? And when they didn't get thier way they cried and still cry about it? THAT feedback thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭deceit


    You would think they are the only people thinking critically even if they are going to be wrong on a lot of things. Most people just blindly follow the media like sheep and believe what big daddy government tells them until they come across moments like that case recently in the US were most people were under the impression he was a racist and killed black people which woke them up when they realized he killed 3 white guys all with criminal history's including raping young boys. Thinking critically would be seeing Concentration camps in Australia, body harvesting in China which our governments wont denouce for fear of angering China, global elitists creating division between left and right to make people fight each other and blame the problems on the other side rather than looking up at the true culprits. Its not really much of a push to see us going along the lines of Australia/Germany (I think its a certainty vaccine mandates will come to Ireland just like Germany/Austria in which case I will be calling these people Nazi scum).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    The article describes what the economic forum is, and why conspiracy theorists have latched onto it. Likewise, there's a thread here where various conspiracy theorists fail to explain what the conspiracy is.

    Your question doesn't make much sense. There's a pandemic, so in response, governments decided to have lockdowns to reduce the spread of the virus. Is there any part of that you don't understand?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Bizarre rant.

    It's a public discussion forum, if you are going to make claims that are patently nonsense, then posters are going to call you out on it. You seem to take it very personally, okay, but you are the one making the baseless claims, so the onus is on you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Most conspiracy theorists just make false claims and parrot whatever conspiracy sites tell them without question, whilst accusing others of being "sheep". This forum is well over a decade of nothing but that, pretty self explanatory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    That’s some ramble. No idea what you are on about in the US and how it seamlessly has something to do with Australia and Nazis in your mind. Cookie cutter CT’ist type of post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Nightclubs to temporarily close again during a pandemic, I don't know if I can handle this much Communist tyranny



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The great reset/everyone getting converted to communism seems very similar to the one world government idea that is pushed by the end times brigade. I suppose if you have been following a belief system that has failed spectacularly at predictions in the past, then jumping on a new one isn’t such a big leap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    But!!!! It's only happening in Ireland, meanwhile here in England everything is open, OK we have been slapped on the wrist and have to wear masks in shops again (the absolute humanity!!!) But otherwise things are back to normal 🤷‍♂️

    Conspiracy theorists can never explain why Ireland is part of the nefarious plot to mask the population forever but fifty miles away across the water the government didn't get the email from the cabal of global elites and has freed the people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Boris was name checked a few posts ago. However, I don’t think the poster got the updated memo about the UK going their own way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    The vast majority of the people on this planet have been Blackmailed, Bribed, Coerced, Shamed, Threatened or Brainwashed into taking the jab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Unfortunately there is a cohort of people for whom the only acceptable response to COVID-19 is to pretend it's not there and act no differently than we did in January 2020. Thankfully they're a small minority although the amount of noise they generate convinces them that they're a majority. Or the rest are sheeple, easily intimidated etc etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    No. They're just better at critical thinking than you are.

    Granted, that's not setting the bar very high...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So why aren't you able to find anywhere else where they state that their goal is to make sure that no one owns anything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You've done this before.

    And we've pointed out all the false claims made by conspiracy theorists at the time. FOr example: "All covid measures are going to be permanent" or "The covid vaccine is going to depopulate the planet."


    Why do you not have issue with any of these statements?

    Why are you pretending they don't exist?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Again mate, you have claimed that the entire space program is fake and you're possibly a flat earther. Your buddies most likely think and have stated that you are a fake conspiracy theorist who is trying to make them look bad.


    Also, you and your buddies tried to have this forum closed down because it allowed people who don't thinking like your prefered mob to post.


    As always, your rant is completely hypocritcal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭buzzerxx


    OH ok, you said NO. Bullshit, Most people are being Blackmailed, Bribed, Coerced, Shamed, Threatened or Brainwashed into taking the jab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Cool. Prove it then.


    You cats have had over 300 pages to show that something's going on.

    You've convinced no one and only made yourself and your fellow conspiracy theorists laughing stocks.


    Why would anyone take you seriously and not the get vaccine based on what you claim?


    If someone was convinced to not get the vaccine because some guy who believes the space program is faked told them that there's a secret anagram in the names of the variants, then that person is very easily lead and completely gullible.


    But of course, you'll ignore and come back with another one of your shallow sound bites you're copy pasting from some twitter grifter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You say most people, what about the others?

    What about traveling to Africa or Thailand requiring jabs, what about the annual flu jab, what about the numerous infectious diseases we've eradicated due to vaccine? What's your explanation for all that or are you the equivalent of one of these people with a jesus sign on the street yelling unintelligible stuff..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Actually no. Outside of your paranoid fantasy-land, in the real world where normal sane people live, it actually went something like this.

    Stage 1: "This COVID things seems pretty nasty. Hopefully they can come up with a vaccine for it, because vaccines have a proven record of providing protection against viruses,"

    Stage 2: "I wish they'd bloody well hurry up with that vaccine"

    Stage 3: "They have a vaccine now. Excellent. Count me in."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Or the guy that used to bring his message to Oxford St on Saturdays:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,190 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Conspiracy thinking stage 4: We have vaccines but the disease is still around PROOF THAT VACCINES DON'T WORK IT WAS ALL A SCAM I KNEW IT THE EVIL AUTHORITIES ARE PLAYING US FOR FOOLS THE NEXT STAGE OF THEIR GLOBAL DOMINATION SOCIAL CREDIT PLAN IS UPON US BRAINWASHED MASS MEDIA .. and so on..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭buzzerxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    This has been the troofer spiel for god knows how long. You are beyond awake, more like chronic insomnia.



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