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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,636 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Not that a poll in the indo is anything to go by, but that poll is currently 49/47 in favour of more restrictions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,665 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    This 1000%

    The govt dropped the ball majorly last Christmas and thousands got sick and many died as a result.

    They are terrified that Omicron is going to lead to the same situation if they leave everything open again this time round.

    As always they are behind the curve and have little/no common sense or leadership.

    This is what populist governments do, we voted them in, we get what we deserve i suppose.

    Post edited by Supercell on

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Its like the Fr Ted and the Chinese episode at this stage with "More Drink" being replaced by "More restrictions".

    These clowns need to play what is in front of them from here on in, in terms of hospitalization rates, and quit spinning the bottle to see what to do next, because they haven't and never had any iota of an idea what comes next with this thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    That would be good numbers. The sort of person who reads the Indo is the sort of person who listens to Paranoid Pat and Covid Claire.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The govt dropped the ball majorly last Christmas and thousands got sick and died as a result.

    The difference being that back then nobody was vaccinated. IIRC the first Irish person vaccinated was on new years day. This time around the majority of the population are vaccinated, so to keep themselves important while they revel in the smell of their own farts the government and especially their advisors are waving their arms around about omicron. A variant which so far shows higher transmission rates, but no corresponding jump in serious illness or death in the currently vaccinated, boosted or not. And by christmas the majority of those over 65, who accounted for 90% of ALL Irish deaths from this pox will have the boosters too.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    I’ve no words!! Panic has hit! What has Tony got in his letter!! I reckon it’s 1million cases in December now not 400,000





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    Im not sure of the numbers but did thousands die last Xmas? Let’s be honest if what happened last Xmas was the worst case then with vaccines it must be a lot less this year even if we stayed open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Now there's a thing.

    I actually agree with you.

    Surely tis a sign of the End Times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,175 ✭✭✭prunudo


    The only people panicking are the clowns in government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭mollser


    Who in the actual fcuk do Holohan / NPHET think they are to make the govt call an emergency meeting, in a period when all numbers are below their optimistic forecasts, hospital numbers declining and boosters heading rapidly towards 1m doses?

    They need to be promptly chucked out of the room, with a career or two ended along the way. NPHETS ever growing list of catastrophic errors need to be spelled out to them also, this is a real shambles. Strong leadership needed!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,665 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    No idea, I meant thousands between them both, i'll reword that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Paul Moynagh having a pop at NPHET.

    "If mistakes have been made learn from them. Whereas at the moment it seems that mistakes are made and that narrative is defended. And again we end up now with new restrictions that I am not convinced are going to be very impactful.”

    He seems baffled by the advice not to use antigen tests on symptomatic people - says it makes no scientific sense. Also questions the reluctance to impress importance of good ventilation, which is from the same playbook as antigen reluctance.

    I predict a ‘fact-check’ on his credentials or a reveal of shady past (perhaps an incorrectly filed tax return) sometime soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Have they only been hearing about the NPHET letter since 8 am? Were they not watching TV3 last night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,413 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Scare Byrne finally reflecting economic effects of more restrictions on her programme. A bit late.

    The push for restrictions was led by Scare Byrne and others. Happy to see people out of a job just before Xmas.



  • Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My mam won't see the new year. There isn't a hope in hell that we will be having a 'covid funeral'. Whoever wishes to be there, to go to our house are welcome to do so. It will be open door. After the burial we will have the usual food and drinks in such a place. It's a small town and mammy is well liked. If a hundred people want to shake my dad's hand and give him a hug then he is good with that and so am I.



  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Listened to Jim Power on The Stand this morning. F***1ng sobering stuff and the government need to cop on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    Sorry wasn’t having a go at you. It’s just people see last Christmas as some sort of end of world scenario. Last Xmas was the same as this Xmas we were protecting the health service from been over run and we made a mess of it.

    But we need to get some perspective if what happened last Xmas was to happen again we would have the protection of the vaccines so we shouldn’t have the same outcome.

    Numbers are already dropping and you can bet more people are socialising this year with vaccination and more of the economy open.

    So and I’m not advocating this but if we were to carry on like the run up to Xmas last year we already have an idea of the worst case outcome in the real world as we did it last year without vaccination.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Would be a step too far imo but realistically more restrictions needed with the case numbers and new variant. That's the harsh reality of a pandemic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭the kelt


    So let me get this straight?

    We are given a vast array of predictions from mr Snake Oil based on his modelling and asked to curtail our activities to to lower hospital numbers etc.

    We do all that, not only do we do all that we actually end up wayyyyy way lower than what Mr Snake Oils modelled as the most optimistic scenario.

    However still not enough for NPHET who have a meeting, leak everything to the media before even sending the letter to the government who rather than being rational are now doing the political equivalent of bending over it seems.

    This is madness, like at this satge no one can be under any illusions as to where the power in the country is falling, we are basically being run on the whims of one group of people headed up by someone who has a history of ........ oh sorry i almost forgot, not allowed talk about saint Tonys past on here.

    This is sick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,413 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The notion that tens of thousands of people are going to be unemployed again is so daft.

    Not one person in politics, medicine, education or the media, will lose any money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    This is I think a major drive as well behind restriction acceptance. I personally know a lot of people who work from at home fully paid, no commute, no child care, have people over not for parties just visits, and are happy to have there life restricted for a couple of months of the year and then go on holiday but new car home improvements with the money saved. I really only heard them complain when schools closed and they had the kids at home 😂😂😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    And in two weeks time NPHET will take the credit for the falling numbers because they acted 🙄🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,734 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Wtf is the messaging here.

    "Go get your vaccine so you can travel and enjoy indoor hospitality"

    Actually you still need a professional test to travel and actually we are closing hospitality as its too dangerous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    The virus used to love complacency and alcohol but now the virus prefers the laughter of children at Christmas.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Ah christ Frostie, I'm so sorry to hear that. 😔 But as for the rest of your post I agree 100%. Fúck those idiots and their repeated near constant examples of their fear mongering contradictory "advice". Fúck them from a height.

    I for one will also be ignoring them and their bullshít. I will be visting friends and relatives over the christmas. All are vaccinated, some are like pin cushions after the latest booster stuff. If there is an outbreak among them the risk of anything more than a sniffle will be monumentally tiny and the facts bear this out.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    This is fairly mad. What are they telling the goverment??? What more can we do??? Utterly depressing to be honest



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Even Orla the Architect (of ISAG and masking kids fame) is criticising NPHET's plan to just restrict hospitality and hope it goes away. Calling them unscientific and causing collateral damage. So even the ex-zero covid zealots are seeing through the restriction charade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,015 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    If you can hear the laughter then clearly the masks are not thick enough or tight enough.

    Remember folks, covering a toddlers face is the way out of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    I believe that NPHET and the government are very wary of anything close to a lockdown as they fear that mass non compliance will occur and the spell will be permanently broken as it were.

    Omicron was probably seen by many as an ace card that would scare enough of the public into essentially achieving a lockdown by stealth. That isn’t looking likely.

    This could be why we have panic this morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,500 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Our elected government dancing to NPHETs tune again. Proof, if proof were still needed, of who is directing public policy in this country.




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