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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    Nobody thinks Germany is headed towards Right Wing authoritarianism. Left wing authoritarianism is an actual thing too, you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,166 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Fair enough.

    Any type of authoritarianism then ,is unlikely in that very balanced parliament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,420 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is the number of people now we have in ICU less than it was at this date last year when we didn't have the vaccines? In the UK the figure is less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    My antigen test experience. Last Thursday had my pcr for my trip to the states on Saturday . Passed and off i go.

    I brought a few antigen tests with me. Come Monday i thought i’d try one for the craic. Low and behold “ oh f**k!” A second faint line. According to the instructions I’m positive. So i take a second one, oh double f****k same result. No symptoms whatsoever.

    So after a restless night i got hold of 2 more tests. Different antigen brand by Abbotts. First test negative. Did another test the following morning and same result negative.

    Today i took a PCR and low and behold negative.

    interesting…..

    My advice is if you’re traveling do the more accurate PCR test.

    Post edited by Micky 32 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Very depressing to be reading about more restrictions the week before I fly home for Christmas, although not really surprising.

    I gave up caring about case count long ago from being here in Canada, no clue why they are doing this in Ireland when hospitals aren't calling out from up above.

    Can't see many sticking to these guidelines, especially around Christmas. So many will feel confused when they have their vaccine and did what they had to do over the past 20 months or so. And who could blame them? Christmas was non-existent last year, I spent it here in Canada and hated every minute. The local pub was like a lonely hearts club of Irish people who couldn't travel home. I don't expect this to be met with anything other than anger as we were all gearing up for a good Christmas with fiends and family, now that looks to be on thin ice due to panic on what MIGHT happen with data coming from South Africa with has less and 30% vaccination rate.

    I will be in a pub, through hell or high water, with my pals. I missed it dreadfully last year, I can't miss it again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭M three


    Over 2 weeks since positive covid pcr test (mild headcold like symptoms for 3-4 days around the time of test).

    Is there a test available that will tell you if you can still pass it on to someone else? Is that what a lateral flow test does?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,420 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Could we have a ballot in the over 75's whether they wish to have the rest of the country wait around and die before they do from Covid?



  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is always worth checking out something before posting about. Pre Covid UK got about 370,000 cancer doses per annum. Have there been Zero since Covid began? Because that is the only way those numbers add up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Deleted..

    Official RTE Twitter account putting out bullsh"t. There's a surprise



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭celt262




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,441 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    I want to believe what she says but she’s a hung ho mask everyone, zero covid loon! Looks like hysterical ranting to me and trying to frighten people




  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think the articles mean cancer tests/screening etc. Not all of them would be positive obviously.

    Either way, it's potentially thousands of missed cancer cases.

    Sure nobody cares about that kind of stuff anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,175 ✭✭✭prunudo


    We've been stable at 4k case numbers for a while now. Hospital numbers are falling albeit slowly the last few weeks. Bar tinkering with opening hours, society is pretty much mixing and interacting as normal. We are now in winter, a season known for sickness and illness.

    Begs a question, what sort of numbers did nphet expect when they decided to push opening on 22nd Oct. Cases were always going to rise, but so what, large cases don't matter anymore.

    In saying that, peel back the info, everything that has being leaked is still tinkering at the edges, and will do nothing to cases. 4 households for Christmas dinner is still a sizeable group.

    They've lost prospective, with so many vaccinated this virus is not serious for the vast vast majority. Certainly not proportionally to the damage its doing to society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Tony's track record isn't great on cancer. But he brazened that out quite impressively. Doubt he cares. Covid is his moment to shine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,777 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Why weren't you at home "following the measures"?



  • Posts: 243 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Careful there u could get a ban for mentioning Tony and the c word.that never happened apparently.not on his watch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,050 ✭✭✭Polar101


    So.. on a scale of 0 to 10, how happy are you with your antigen test experience?

    Sounds like there is some difference in quality, at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Some will be cancelled the rest will be rolled over; it's how sovereign debt works. It's all about affordability of the debt not we have it. The NTMA takes care of all that pretty well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,295 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    The closest you'll get to that is a PCR, in terms of negative=safe, but you won't get a HSE PCR for that reason.

    Otherwise the usual advice is 10 days after symptom onset.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Posted in the travel thread but worth posting here also.

    AerLingus advising that the testing requirements have been pushed out 48hrs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    For many people socialising with friends and particularly the tradition of emigrants coming home at Christmas and meeting up with friends is very important. Not just an Irish thing and does not necessarily mean lots of pints.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    She was waxing hysterically about her kids having swine flu in 2009 and it being the government's fault too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Hi Goldengirl, what is misinformation in the post? Can you also show me where hospitals are ‘extremely busy’ with Covid 19? I see busy hospitals but not with Covid. Hospitalisations and ICU figures are not high relative to the population of Ireland, we’ve just a crap health service they think they can scream at us about for the Winter, not good enough,

    If you want to stick up for a poster who wanted children of the ‘unvaccinated’ excluded from school and now wants to discuss mandatory vaccination, which will also mean mandatory never ending boosters - off with you. I don’t have any time for someone who appears to be the wolf in sheep’s clothing pretending to justify their horrendous proposals with excuses like ‘it’s a pandemic and there’s no other choice’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    The over reaction to these latest very light restrictions is ridiculous.

    Thankfully in the real world outside of the permanently outraged boards clique of posters people understand the seriousness of the situation and will react positively.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    We do not have debt cancelled. We do refinance existing debt and we take on new debt all of which needs to be serviced.

    On the cost of servicing debt, you are right that the NTMA are excellent but they can only be as good as the economic conditions they operate in. The EU, IMF, IFAC and the Department of Finance have expressed concerns about the sustainability of continued high level of borrowing, increased current spending and critically reliance on corporate tax revenues. We have had tail winds over the last 6/7 years with low interest rates, ECB government bond buying, quantitative easing, low inflation, record tax revenues and so forth and we know through history that these things will shift and already are doing so.

    The problem, in my opinion, is that a mindset has crept in that we can continue to shut down sectors of the economy and that there is a tap of money there to support this policy not to mention the long term implications of making our economy and society less connected. I also know the damage that out of control Covid can do but this mindset is and should be worrying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    You are correct. The people who will not be impacted in the slightest by these measures will obviously not care.


    And yes they are the majority of the population but it doesn't make the restrictions correct.


    Again it is the youth, those in insecure jobs, the creative and arts sector who will take the hit.


    Retirees on cushy pensions and warm home will not mind.


    Those with nice secure jobs and settled families will probably not care.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    NHPET seemingly have recommended restricting hospitality hours even more,Has there been any leaks as to what time they want these establishments to close? One poster here yesterday was suggesting 8pm while I see 10pm floating around twitter last night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,295 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Can't see 8pm being viable. It would wipe out the restaurant trade.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Yea i guess NPHET will recommend 8 or 9 and cabinet will add an hour.


    My guess would be 1030pm closures to put the nail in the nightclub trade.



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