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Limerick improvement projects

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,581 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I'm guessing they're for the new bridge over the existing railway line on the road being constructed at the moment.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Works have been ongoing on the Coonagh to Knockalisheen road since March. These will be for the bridge over the Limerick - Ennis railway line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They have 2 bridges to build over the railway line. One by the Country Club and one at Watch House Cross



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Just the one new bridge AFAIK. I'm pretty sure Ballynanty bridge is not being replaced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It looks like Hartigans hill will be widened so that would need a bridge. And there is no way to link the Knockalisheen Rd. to the Old Cratloe with out crossing over again.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    The railway line is crossed twice. Once at the existing Ballynanty bridge and with a new bridge on the new dual carriageway section between Knockalisheen Rd and the old Cratloe Rd. All the maps are here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,581 ✭✭✭✭phog


    They should have continued the new road to join the Long Pavement at the Parteen side of the existing level crossing and that would have lessened the requirement to upgrade the bridge at Hartigan's Hill



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    What are you calling Ballynanty bridge. The little one by Corpus Christi or Hartigans hill by Watch House Cross ?

    I thought the bridge at Watch House Cross will need a new bridge to widen the road and it certainly looks like they have started building one



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Looks at the maps and you'll see. If a new bridge is to be built it will be in the exact same place as the current one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya it looks like they are building it flush up against the old one by the looks of it. The land has been cleared and built into a little slope. I could be wrong but that's how it was explained to me anyway.

    Looking at the map though maybe they are not going to widen the road there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    1BQ LIMERICK has now its own designated website.

    It’s an exciting project for the Quays.

    However the rendered image view (3) of the office building as would be seen from the vantage point of the Clayton Hotel isn’t great. From that perspective it resembles a building cladded in scaffolding. Hope I’m wrong.

    It’s a pity that the webcam from the Riverpoint is out of action. It would have been nice to follow the construction progress.

    Alternatively, St Michael’s Boat Club has a webcam too. It would be cool if they could nudge the camera a bit to the left so that we would have a full view of the building site.

    1BQ-Limerick.png




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,018 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    You should contact 1BQ or Conack and ask for a webcam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ide say in reality it will look more like Riverpoint in terms of the glass and won't be that transparent the majority of the time.

    It will be nice to see the quays finally finished



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Unfortunately we'll still have the eyesore that is the back of Henry St Garda station and its car park right next door to this ☹️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭dave 27


    Does it mention how many people the office element will be able to employ once complete? Just curious compared to the capacity of the Gardens development



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭mart 23


    Does 1BQ have a meaning .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭dave 27




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭mart 23


    AFAIK its 700



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭dave 27


    Thats a good size for a landmark development and LEED finish too, hopefully it will have no problem getting leased. Plenty sizable office development down the tracks on the way with the Opera site so it will be a good indicator on the market, although could be skewed with the pandemic for now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,227 ✭✭✭adaminho




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Thats been gone a few months now. There's not much demo left to do on the site. The former AIB building on the corner of Ellen St and Patrick St and the buildings either side of it were demolished a couple of weeks ago.

    There's only one more building to go and the roofs gone off that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭mart 23


    Its a pity those red buildings on Patrick street were not demolished as well or fell down .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,375 ✭✭✭source


    This is being used as the car park for the vaccination centre.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    A random crane could "accidentally" hit them yet. Wouldn't be the first time.

    In general I'm all for them but they will look pointlessly out of place around there now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Not sure how they could possibly look "out of place" when Georgian architecture is still going to be the predominant feature on Patrick Street and Rutland Street. We should be grateful that these buildings have survived for the past 250 years given the absolute piles of shite that have punctuated these terraces since the 1960s. It's a shocking indictment of Limerick Council/Limerick 2030 that the modern infill being proposed, particularly the absolute turd of a replacement structure at the Patrick Street/Ellen Street junction is of such woeful design quality!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    No way will it still be the predominant feature. Arthur's Quay, Granary, Sarsfield House, Everything across the Abbey, the Potato market, all the buildings around the market area.

    Georgian New Town Pery is one thing or the mansions on the circular roads and O'Connell Avenue but the rest can go. I bet the builders of them didn't give a FK about what the history they knocked to build them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Their builders didn't knock anything to construct these townhouses. The buildings on Bank Place, Rutland Street and Patrick Street were the first to be erected as part of Davis Ducart's plan for a new town on a greenfield site after the original city walls had been demolished. They are worthy of preservation for that reason alone. Not to mind the fact that they are perfectly adaptable and reusable. The last thing Limerick needs is more miserable, featureless, "could be anywhere" type buildings at the expense of distinctive heritage stock. What do you think makes more of an impact on visitors, tourists etc? Preserved historic structures or the likes of an Arthur's Quay centre or Cruise's Street that are failing and obsolete after 30 years?!

    By the way, the Granary was built in 1787.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Georgian buildings are exactly "could be anywhere" buildings. They are all over the UK, Ireland and the grid plan is all over the US. Honestly when people come to Limerick they dont have a clue or care about Georgian Limerick. It's not as special as you think it is.

    As for featureless Georgian architecture is the absolute definition of featureless. It's horrible and boring compared to what came before it. Miserable boring red brick square crap is all it is. The only thing makes it important is age. As for obsolete any type of building can become obsolete or can be modified. You call Arthur's Quay obsolete but it has a very busy Tesco, apartments and a car park. That's way more than most Georgian buildings have going on

    I'll take Nicolas St. Or the modern quays over boring George Limerick any day

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,052 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985





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  • Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whatever about the design quality, it's absolutely vital the build and material quality is high. If you take a look at the Rugby Experience you can see some of the panels are already turning a slight green hue due to mould. I presume it'll be regularly treated and cleaned but if it isn't it's going to look pretty funky pretty soon. Frankly I've more faith in JP to maintain a building than I do in Limerick Council/Limerick 2030 on the Opera site.



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