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TUS Programme

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭MarkEadie


    You work for the department. A valid reason to a jobseeker might not be seen as a valid reason by the Tus people, which is why there aare stories of people being left destitute or having to go through Tus again and again. Pretty pointless when they could be spending that time looking for actual employment where they get a proper wage but it keeps the Tus people employed in a pretty nice job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭MarkEadie


    As I said a very good reason is subjective. I'd say the poster should consider his elderly parents lives.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    The problem is, if the poster doesn’t want to take up this job out of concern for elderly family members health, the he/she isn’t available for work. And not qualified for Jobseekers as a result. Carers allowance might be an option but only if one or both parents are so unwell as to need full time care and attention and certified by their GP as such.

    Other then that there is little wriggle room.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭MarkEadie


    He won't get carers allowance, highly unlikely. It's a good example in my opinion of why viewing them as adversaries trying to get you off your payment is the best way to keep yourself on your toes when dealing with them.



  • Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The usual interview questions. It also gives you the opportunity to ask any questions or raise any concerns.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    viewing them as adversaries implies that you’re in some kind of “tussle” with SW. First of all this is a bad idea because a claimant simply has no choice but to adhere to the law of the land and can’t “win”.

    You will be disqualified, in the end, from any payment if you don’t meet the criteria for that payment. Current government advise DOESNT include elderly people having to cocoon/self isolate so any argument theOP might put forward about protecting her elderly parents won’t stick. The OPs fears are no more then that, fears. You may as well say “I can’t take up the TUS scheme because I’ve a fear of being out of the house during the day”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    Insist on a job, where you have as little contact with people as possible. If that can't be arranged then i would consider taking the financial hit, if you have enough money to tide you over if sanctioned. These aren't normal circumstances, and i ain't putting the lives of vulnerable people i live with, at risk for a crappy tus placement.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Tedious Bore


    Thanks for all the replies here guys, appreciate the different perspectives.

    Way I see it, my preference not to be exposed to numerous random people indoors (just for example) for those reasons I gave above doesn't necessarily translate to me not being genuinely available for work outside of community placement. - As in the reason that I'm living at home with parents now is largely due to my current income being only €200ish per week (a figure I'm still very grateful for). But IF I could expect to earn possibly more than double that amount per week in fulltime employment, then that helps change my options in terms of potentially renting elsewhere. Would probably still find myself incredibly broke trying to rent some shithole on a basic wage, but if that's what I gotta do

    I'm not sure the comparison with fear of going outside quite holds up. I do take the point and appreciate all advice, but agoraphobia like any other phobia describes an irrational fear, so something to see a doctor about. Whereas in current climate, a concern -or fear- of being assigned a placement in close proximity with multiple unknown contacts when cohabiting with elderly people ...is just a well founded rational one, as opposed to something phobic.

    I don't know whether they threaten to take you off Jobseekers entirely maybe, but if it's "only" a reduction for refusing a placement, then that may just be an unwelcome no-brainer decision for me when weighed against keeping my parents out of a hospital. I doubt whoever I'm dealing with be completely inflexible about it anyway, so hopefully there'll be something outdoors for me. Out sweeping roads on bitter baltic january morns ...sure it'll be character building right? 2022 here I come!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    From my understanding, the social welfare people will reduce your payment by 44 euros for a few weeks. That would be the first punishment. If they deem you to have violated their rules again, whilst on the penalty rate, then they will cut off your payment completely for 9 weeks.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭Tedious Bore


    Okay thanks, will look into this more myself when I get a chance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    The last time i was on a tus placement, they had me working in a charity shop. I ain't working in a tiny/cramped charity shop in a pandemic for love nor money! I would only do something like gardening or sweeping the roads. They should have something like that available.

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Not being funny but there are so many jobs available, have you looked for something that might suit you and your circumstances?



  • Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This only happens if one completely fails to communicate with them. At the moment some non necessary CE and TUS Schemes are not working. The TUS Supervisor won’t want to force someone into an unsuitable position. Talk to them. Explain your situation and give an idea of what fields you are interested in. Keep an eye on sites like JobsIreland and you might see a CE Scheme more suited to you. Remember that you can avail of training and further education while on these schemes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Koloman


    “DELETED”



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