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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I sent an email to Sarah Sexton in Intel so we'll see if anything happens

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Nothing involving traffic but last night heading home along the cycle lane outside Guinness on the Dublin quays, I picked up this coach screw embedded in the back tyre, straight through and hitting the rim. Thought at first I'd broken a spoke that was hitting the frame on each revolution with the racket it was making before stopping. Tyre didn't blow at least so it was a change of tube and tyre boot to get me home.

    Cycle lane on the quays before O'Connell bridge covered in glass which I'd seen and avoided but never noticed the screw further on. Cycle lanes hardly ever swept so you have to keep your eyes peeled for all sort of obstacles and not just traffic trying to harm you.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I’ve had 5 punctures in the last two weeks just going to and from work. I thought it was a dodgy batch of inner tubes I’d bought, but I took the tubeless gravel bike to work yesterday when I ran out of tubes to fix the regular commuter hybrid, and I got a puncture in that one as well! Thankfully it sealed itself up again. I’d had one puncture in the last two years before this.

    I don’t really want to ignore the segregated lanes, since most of the new ones are actually quite good when clean, and I don’t want the hassle from drivers. Plus the general lanes are usually at a standstill at commuting times. But I also don’t want a puncture every other day.

    I’m thinking I’m going to have to stick tubeless road tyres on my gravel bike (which is actually my good bike), and use it for the winter commute.

    Is there an ETA for completion of the Griffith Avenue/Ballymun Road junction works, does anyone know? That’s in absolute bits at the moment and I suspect it’s contributed handsomely to that puncture count. I know it’s to improve the cycle infrastructure there, so I’m trying not to get too annoyed about it.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Transport for London have a new campaign out called "See Their Side" where each person involved in an incident should see how the other person might have experienced the incident.

    One councillor, Jo Rigby, tweeted this letter in response...

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    Personally, I get what they were trying to do but don't think they thought it through fully. The fear of nearly knocking someone down is not the same as the fear of nearly being injured or killed.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sarah in Intel just came back to me...

    Hi Seth,


    Thank you for reaching out to us.


    My apologies for the delayed reply – I wanted to ensure that I had connected with the appropriate people to adequately address this.


    Safety is absolutely paramount at Intel and I am sorry that you have encountered such issues as described below. I have shared the detail of your email with the our construction safety team and with the bus vendor themselves. I have been assured that the bus vendor has been made aware of this specific issue and will contact you directly to follow up – please let me know if this does not happen.


    Additionally, our lead construction contractor onsite is launching a cycling safety communications campaign which will include a number of videos and other communication tools. This is a campaign that they been working on for several weeks as they are aware of the need to raise the safety alertness on this subject. The campaign is due to launch next week.


    Please do not hesitate to reach back out to me should you need to.


    Take care,

    Sarah

    Whilst I'm happy with the response so far, I don't particularly want to speak to anyone in Callinan's - I am curious to see if there is any impact from their cycling safety comms campaign though.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle



    I missed a call/got a voicemail from a representative from Callinans yesterday but that was followed up with a call today from a representative of Exyte (the main contractor) who profusely apologised for the incident and told me that they would make sure there was no repeat of it. He reminded me of the forthcoming cycle week information thing they are holding and how they would be doing all they can to educate people about vulnerable road users.

    Shortly afterwards the representative from Callinans called me again and repeated the same message - apologised profusely and made no attempt to defend the actions of the driver but offered a commitment that in addition to what has already been done, all drivers would be made aware that saving a few seconds on the road isn't worth the risk - if you can't overtake safely then don't!

    From what I gather, a fairly strict punishment has been made against the driver which should serve as a stark warning to all of the drivers. Hopefully, we won't notice the red busses from here on in.

    As an outcome, I'm happy with how this has been dealt with by all companies involved (both in terms of speed and in how it was followed up). From what I've been told, it seems to have been a more constructive process than sitting in a garda station for half an hour dictating a statement only for the super to ignore it because I wasn't killed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    That's all good to hear. Looks like there'll be a whole new site opening up off the R449 in the near future, so probably more busses to be added to the fleet.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Is that not just for a temporary car park?

    http://www.eplanning.ie/KildareCC/AppFileRefDetails/211594/0

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭hesker


    It’s not a junction as far as I know. More like an entrance on a bend

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo




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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I note in both applications that people using the existing cycle path and footpath will be forced to give way to traffic turning in and out of the new developments which goes against all best practices and the DMURS but this is Kildare Co Co who won't give a toss

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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal



    Drivers only ignore new cycle lanes?, I've seen them ignore one's that have existed for 10 years :(

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I missed the boat on the previous one (I thought it was a car park on the Intel site), but I've been in contact with my local reps about the current one.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    An odd one tonight. I was coming down Mobhi Road in Glasnevin doing about 43-45 km/h, in the bus/cycle lane. A car was driving in the general traffic lane beside me. As I passed the left turn for Home Farm Road, the driver let rip with the horn. I didn’t see the car again afterwards. There wasn’t much other traffic around. I can only assume he/she was attempting to overtake and left hook me, but had misjudged my speed, and then got annoyed when he/she realised their manoeuvre was going to be physically impossible to do while also slowing down to take the corner.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,197 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    I wonder if it's the same guy who shouted at me there before. The car park for my office is on the right just before the lights and I've been screamed at for not being in the cycle lane when turning into it.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    The oncoming car stopped, the cyclists didn't.

    Yaris driver should see several points and a fine for this crap

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I went through the Acts as best I could a while back, and a driving lane is specifically referred to as a "lane" (likewise a bus "lane"), as defined by road markings, etc. A cycle track is only ever just a "track".

    All relevant overtaking, yielding, changing lane, etc. legislation refers to "lanes". A dashed white line indicating a cycle track gives you no extra legal standing - you are still overtaking on the left. Ditto a solid white mandatory line, even with wands.

    Paint is not infrastructure, it will not protect you physically or legally.


    (The situation above where a driver does not indicate before a cyclist has started overtaking on the left is not relevant to this discussion, that's covered by a cyclist' right to overtaking on the left given that the driver has not indicated an intention to turn. Driver totally in the wrong there.)

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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,538 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    The car was in a left turning lane and crossed the cycle lane and is completely at fault. The right lane is a straight ahead lane. Prior to the installation of the bollards the left lane was both a straight ahead and left turning lane. It was lethal for cyclists as drivers would encroach on the scrap of cycle lane along here and bully cyclists off the road. In the past I would take the right lane from the Hilton and continue on to the Phoenix Park. Now all that conflict is concentrated at these lights and I'm not yet sure of the best way to traverse it.

    This junction needs an advance light for cyclists (they added them at a previous set of lights) and a bike box to allow people to get into a safe position. Also drivers need to stop being idiots.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    It's one of those situations where it will depend on what Garda you end up dealing with. Your video arguably shows no indicators, but it's only a momentary view.

    I'd say you'd be very lucky to get a Garda sympathetic enough to do more than get the driver's side of the story, and if they dispute any aspect, then it would end there. I hate to be discouraging, but that's my experience.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I think if I were to follow up with anyone on that, then it would be Dublin City Council along with each and every councillor (excepting one particular "pro-cycling" prick!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Legally a cyclist is perfectly entitled to overtake on the left, except in certain situations none of which were occurring here according to the only witness we have.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/112384088/#Comment_112384088

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,168 ✭✭✭buffalo


    😂 Did you read the linked extract from the SI? That's literally what it says. Overtaking on the left is legal "except where the vehicle to be overtaken has signalled an intention to turn to the left".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Side swiped/left hooked this morning by a grey Renault Traffic van at the junction of Arran Quay and Church Street. When facing a red light would cross the three lanes of traffic and continue on the segregated cycle lane but when the light is green I continue on straight and cross at the next junction. Clipping along at about 30km/h with a green light the van comes parallel and pulls across me (no indicator either for that matter), no option but to turn with the van or I was down and under. Two rear lights and covered in the fabled high vis of no use if as I suspect the driver was on the phone or just a moron. Clipped my hand and despite a roar and slapping the side of the van he still turned left and drove on up the road without stopping.

    Call logged now with traffic watch with the reg details whatever may come of it. Have cycled that section of road hundreds of times and never a problem previously specifically there, occasionally the odd Bus Eireann driver tries to intimidate once past the Church St junction when taking the bus lane.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    Awful situation Dr C, hopefully you are doing ok. CCTV would be great, or if somebody with a dashcam was aware they might have recorded it. More incentive now to get a camera for my bike.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I’ve always found Dublin 15 to be one of the worst parts of Dublin for volume of traffic. I think drivers get frustrated and angrier in general as a result.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,197 ✭✭✭✭Stark


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    I was close passed earlier by a fella who evidently had left his Christmas shopping a little late this year. He overtook me at speed in the bus lane going past DCU inbound on the Ballymun Road. He then rejoined the main lane and proceeded to do the same average speed as me the entire way to Phibsborough, where I overtook him and didn’t see him again. Only he did it by tailgating the car in front of him and sitting on his brakes the whole way 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Merry Christmas everyone, be safe!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Breezer


    Right in front of the health centre too. Loads of elderly people and kids crossing there the whole time.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob



    The drivers that honk at you are the sh*t ones. They're angry because you've disrupted their normally sh*t driving and momentarily forced them to act like a decent driver would.

    Competent drivers won't be put out at all by what you do.

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