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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #26282
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243658#Comment_118243658

    Yeh it's really gone over OTT with testing required for fully vaccinated certified people.



  • #26283
    Multipass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Oh they’ll come up with something on the travel front to coerce the next wave of boosters. Expect the Covid passes to be upgraded to Omicron premium, keep the dirty Delta boosted out of the cafes.



  • #26284
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Looks like hospitals are the same as yesterday at 579.



  • #26285
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243674#Comment_118243674

    It won't if tests are needed anyway. Might as well just get a Covid Cert based on testing and not bother with the booster.



  • #26286
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243656#Comment_118243656

    Yeh my comment on herd immunity in the UK was tongue in cheek somewhat. I still don't see why we should be panicking or enforcing draconian measures on the people when this thing affects so few to a degree that they need ICU treatment. We really need to focus on the HSE now and providing a proper service which doesn't buckle under the pressure of a few people being admitted. It's crazy that we are in a situation of asking really young kids who are impacted by this to change their way of living. Go to the Panto? Don't see your friends after.....Sit in a class with the temperature in single digits... Every time you have sniffle or a small cough...sit at home for days...

    This Covid is running rampant in Schools and I think we all agree with that. We are starting to see ICU numbers coming down though and the positivity rate is falling slowly. That's a good thing and nearly a good approach to let it run loose in the schools amongst a cohort who really aren't overly sick from this. The HSE now need to get their house in order and start planning for next winter NOW. NPHET need to be silenced and a constructive type of communication method needs to be adopted.


    We have nearly got over this and now is a time for focusing on the positives, looking for to Christmas and living life as normal.



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  • #26287
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243544#Comment_118243544

    This 100 days quote is utterly irrelevant to the average person if we're being honest. 100 days to ship the first dose, assuming testing and approval doesn't take longer (the EU is always several weeks behind the US and UK for approval), even at the point of approval and shipping 90% of the population are months away from getting it due to being far down the list. If we need to use a new vaccine, we're writing off 6 months minimum, I think this is downplayed a bit by people



  • #26288
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243688#Comment_118243688

    The test aspect should drop asap. It's part of the emergency break mechanism within the digital cert that countries signed up to. You can't hold on to that break indefinitely.

    I think I'd rather the booster than forking out for a test to travel, then a test to access whatever facilities require a cert in my destination country



  • #26289
    Láidir agus Dílis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Láidir agus Dílis


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243331#Comment_118243331

    Good morning Jim. Have a nice day 🙂



  • #26290
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243714#Comment_118243714

    I agree but then there's the country your going to and if you need tests to access services over there, it just becomes more expensive, forking out for tests when a booster would sort it all out.



  • #26291
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243613#Comment_118243613

    I can certainly see booster fatigue coming in alright, especially if they're talking about boosters every six months. As it stands that could well be in play. It's already boosters at six months, three for J&J(and the science is ropey on that one) after being "fully vaccinated". If outside of the elderly and those whose immune systems are compromised vaccines do actually wane as far as serious illness and death in the general population goes(and the science is not sure at all there) then it'll be boosters at least once a year.

    Personally I'd have no great issue with taking a booster myself, so long as it's not an mRNA type. I avoided those in the vaccine rollout and no way in hell would I take one, possibly two of those, a year for who knows how long at this stage.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #26292
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243721#Comment_118243721

    If they bring in the test requirements on top of the COVID cert do you honestly think they'll reverse that decision quickly?

    Over the past 20 months nothing has been reversed that quickly when it comes to lifting measures. I can't see it happening now, EU requirement or not.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #26293
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,325 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243679#Comment_118243679

    No. They say that the new variant has more mutations on the spike protein so their current vaccine may not be as effective, but they also say they don't know yet. Anything beyond that is complete conjecture.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #26294
    ceegee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243679#Comment_118243679

    They've said the current vaccines PROBABLY won't work AS effectively. But don't let that get in the way of some good fearmongering



  • #26295
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243721#Comment_118243721

    The wording in the regulation is not particularly strong. It says the EU shall be informed as to the duration of the requirements and when they will cease but there's no requirement for that be a short period of time and there's nothing to say you can't maintain additional requirements effectively indefinitely by extending the date.



  • #26296
    [Deleted User]
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    FFS. Only a matter of time before foreign holidays next year will be made next or near impossible. WTF are this shower at. Crazy stuff at this stage.



  • #26297
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243688#Comment_118243688

    There's going to be a mixed approach on this until countries get to a point where they're not really concerned about the impact of importing cases. While the implementation of vaccines remains unbalanced, the travel requirements will be haphazard. And will likely continue to be through 2022. Some will require vaccination. Some will be booster. Some will be PCR test. Some will be a mix.

    I expect the EU will be first out of the blocks and will eventually permit free travel internally without certs; and possibly with UK/EU travel too.

    But we're a bit aways from reaching that point. With some countries having vaccination take-up so low, an imported case has the potential cause local outbreaks. Countries with higher vaccination rates (like us) who can afford higher community case loads have less reason to be concerned.



  • #26298
    bloopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Pat Kenny seems to think that all children, from babies up, should be wearing a mask.

    Our media has lost the run of themselves.



  • #26299
    The Nu man in town
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭The Nu man in town


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243322#Comment_118243322

    Its far from purely advice!

    I've never seen a Minister come out and say "look lads its just advice, if you don't fancy it just ignore it"



  • #26300
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243801#Comment_118243801

    Yeah he's been pushing that for the last couple of days. Claims that they are doing it "all over the world" even though the ECDC specifically do not recommend masks in kids under 12 in schools. He's also pushing the "plumes" narrative as well.



  • #26301
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,512 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243679#Comment_118243679

    Words are important. They said they think it might be less effective.

    Not ideal if confirmed because Moderna will be the predominant booster here in December/January.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • #26302
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    Have we not learned by now that you can't keep a variant out unless you are willing to lockdown permanently?



  • #26303
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243801#Comment_118243801

    He's a goon and CLaire Byrne isn't to far behind him.

    Trying to tell us that we are in a much better position than last year because of vaccines. Yet doesn't address why the media and NPHET are calling for further restrictions on kids.

    Literally calling for a circuit breaker saying that the advise to parents of kids is optional and they won't follow it.

    Our media is an abomination. Not focusing on the HSE at all or the Antigen test fiasco.



  • #26304
    bloopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭bloopy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243814#Comment_118243814

    Some woman on now saying masks should be obligatory for all children over five.

    They are out of control. Another journalist on now (from the journal) saying that marks should be on all children.

    Is this news reporting or PR.



  • #26305
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243801#Comment_118243801

    I've still not seen anything that convinces me that masks have achieved anything. There is no data at all that makes me believe they are helping in Ireland.

    Yet we are hell bent on sticking them on everyone



  • #26306
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,477 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243829#Comment_118243829

    Kenny has spent probably half the show this morning pushing hard for more restrictions on children specifically. Looking for masks on kids as young as 2. Our media is a disgrace. Absolutely horrendous stuff.



  • #26307
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243823#Comment_118243823

    They aren't trying to keep it out, no country will achieve that, maybe New Zealand thousands of miles from anywhere.


    Delaying it's spread remains the only goal.


    If it's mild then it should be all in to the pub and close the windows.



  • #26308
    [Deleted User]
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    I'm not anti vaccine but I'm most certainly anti masks when it comes to kids. I'm very fast becoming anti mainstream media.



  • #26309
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243852#Comment_118243852

    Whats your point regarding pubs? I agree though. All to the pubs and have a decent knees up. We were told that this year would be different with a huge vaccine uptake and that is slowly being stripped away from us at this stage.



  • #26310
    ceegee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118243855#Comment_118243855

    I'd avoid the last week of October if I were you.

    From what I can see the vast majority of kids don't give a toss about masks, it's the adults freaking out that causes the issue



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  • #26311
    bloopy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Guy on pat Kenny saying that covid cert will have to be updated with booster.

    "Pretty seamless" and logical apparently.



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