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The Omicron variant

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    This is the stuff of nightmares. Damn you Covid, and all your wretched variants.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    There is no vaccine for Delta variant, it is assumed that the vaccine protects against Delta too, but technically it was developed before Delta



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    As long as people get infected yes, there will be more variations evolving.

    Vaccinated people are getting infected in the millions at the moment, don't forget



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Yes, sounds like the wall of defence for mass surge testing and genome sequencing will be coming back to try and limit transmission outbreaks as much as possible. Exactly times like this that the extra capacity comes in useful.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    It isn't though. I was following the H5N1 bird flu thing back in the day, when it was spreading H2H, but it didn't go global. THAT is the stuff of nightmares. This coronavirus is just a dry run for the real thing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭Simon201


    Jaysus! And Danny O'Reilly was thinking of changing the bands name to the 'Omicrons' a few months ago





    😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭cheezums


    in a way covid is the worst type of pandemic. lots of asymptomatic people to spread it, making it impossible to control. and not quite deadly enough such that a lot of people, young people in particular take it seriously.

    something like H5N1 breaking out Human to Human would test even the most hardened and ignorant anti-vaxxer/anti masker/covid denier. it's huge death rate means it kills people rather than let's them spread. it's the reason ebola really isn't that much of a global concern. it's so horrible and deadly it's easy to control.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,464 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    First case discovered in Italy.

    It's probably been in Europe for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,979 ✭✭✭Russman


    Exactly this, it’s right in the sweet spot of being able to cause mayhem with health services whilst remaining not that deadly for most. It’s just deadly enough and just transmissible enough to cause havoc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Austria reporting a suspected case now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭virginmediapls


    Vaccinated people getting infected approximately 13 times less than unvaccinated*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,819 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Boris was rattled ! He had been told the inside information !!! If he is worried we must be entering the doomsday scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    And tipp. Would you guys ever calm the **** down, it's not ebola



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭fun loving criminal


    They're bringing back mandatory masks in shops and on public transport. They know something they're not telling us.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Eh... wut? I just watched the floppy haired buffoon and he didn't look rattled at all. Maybe a bit of projection going on?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Or they are just showing the sort of caution they should have shown in the beginning/alpha and Delta



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Aye. The British were caught on the hop with their initial nothing to really see here approach to covid and ended up with a really high caseload and deaths.

    And leaving pubs and clubs open with an utterly pointless curfew just like our homegrown pack of crosseyed gobshítes. Virus in a bus or train or a local Tesco? Jaysus, fierce risky, bejaysus, what what. The same virus in pub or club at eleven o'clock all mashed together at the bar? Totally harmless, very little risk old boy. You really couldn't make this level of going full retard up.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Meh, nah, not really. It's just the worst type of pandemic because of the way society is currently set up/conditioned. I'm not saying that death has ever been welcomed but we live in an era where there is waning belief in anything more than this physical reality so the price of life has become so high. If there was a real feeling that we existed beyond this physical dimension there would be less of a fixation on keeping people alive in and around and often long past their life expectancy. This I am sure of, it might not be happening on a conscious level but certainly factors in to the measures we have taken to curb the virus. Maybe not a bad thing depending on your perspective but a huge sacrifice being made to keep as much people as possible alive for a little longer.

    The worst type of pandemic is one which actually affects a significant proportion of the population and perhaps results in a gruesome prolonged and painful death. We could go back to living a relatively normal existence if we accepted the fact that people die but for many justifiable reasons we don't seem to want to accept that fact and thus, we are in the current situation. It seems that now we've just taken an arbitrary decision point on the capacity the healthcare system can withstand and deemed that to be the straw that broke the camels back and in need of extraordinary measures to curb a collapse. In Ireland we've always had seasonal pressure on the healthcare system with the abundance of diseases that spread this time of year, it would never have even been contemplated that we would lockdown the population because of that, rather questions were raised about mismanagement and under funding in the healthcare system.



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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I think he is rattled because of all the issues he has caused over the past couple of weeks. His support amongst the Tories is damaged and if he has to do a major reintroduction of restrictions he may be fatally wounded from a political perspective. I think the advisers have got through to him this time and he's trying to be seen to be going with the science. He'll probably let his guard down and get himself photographed somewhere without a mask when he should be wearing one, but this evening he had his papers in order and advisers either side propping him up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭brickster69


    The Belgium case came from someone who had returned home after going to Egypt and Turkey 11 days ago. Quite obvious it will be spreading everywhere by now.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,925 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    I think a good rule of thumb is if Boris/UK government are worried, we've nothing to worry about. If Borris/UK government aren't worried, we should be worried.

    The only doomsday scenario would be standard covid with an Ebola level CFR. We'd know if that was the case as this is already everywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Maybe this variant didn't originate in South Africa but was just first discovered there?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,257 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Johnson is loving the chance to distract attention from his own gaffs and the pressure he's feeling from his own party

    Since the dawn of politics, an external threat to unite against has been a welcome reprieve and a way to rally support around a flailing politician

    Used to be they'd just invade somewhere small enough and far enough away to be a trivial battle for domestic consumption., at least Johnson doesn't have to take such drastic

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Could have been the case with all the variants. However to date it's pointing to SA (or maybe Southern Africa is a better term) as most of the known cases are there or have travelled from there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭giveitholly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    Have you been reading 'Piers Morgan' 's tweets?

    Edited: - This was posted before a thread refresh with more replies

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭giveitholly




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,257 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Just because Morgan is a spectacularly awful human being most of the time doesn't mean he isn't right some times.

    We don't know where Omicron came from, and it doesn't even matter where it first originated anymore, it's in the wild now. what matters is how we deal with it

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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