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Grazing 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Could you not do the same as spring time whereby you only let cows out to graze for a couple of hours (all depending on your setup of course)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Trying to leave them out fulltime, don't have enough cubicles in the home yard to house all the milkers. No point trying to give the cows say half an acre per grazing, they will just stand at the gap waiting to come in lol. Instead I'm gonna let them back out on some of the silage ground on covers of 600 or so, that I most likely won't be able to graze early next year. I of course probably should of stuck to my autumn rotation planner and not gone through the area as fast lol, but then if oct and Nov are wet you got too much grass. Overall a good problem to have here ha.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Out by day in by night about a week left. Will keep a field or two for yearlings to keep em out another few weeks. Incalf heifers housed with 10 days.

    Will use the dry week to dry off a batch of cows and leave em outside to soak up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭morphy87


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    I moved the cattle today and this is the field after them, how well did they skin it do you think and should I top it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Looks good enough. Next impossible to get a really tight graze down without cutting up the ground this time of the year. 12 weeks from now and you'll be into Feb where you can re-graze again weather permitting



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭morphy87


    I might top it as I don’t want to drive the quality next spring,are your cattle giving it a good skinning?

    one poster said here that if the ph is right it won’t effect quality next spring

    I won’t be grazing this till early April



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,007 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Was listening to the hammering rain earlier waiting for light and was thinking stock might be ready to go in.

    checking on a group of smaller runner types that have access to the shed and field they are munching away with the rain hammering on their backs rather than seeking shelter from the rain.

    It reminds me that sheds are often for the human rather the stock. Heavier cattle will graze away here once damage under foot can be avoided.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭ABitofsense


    I've 3 cows with calves out still but their not happy. Load of grass but they want in with the rest. All will be in Tuesday when the last bull weanlings are sold. Grass still growing here but ground conditions are gone bad now. I'll have good cover in spring for them when they get out in March anyway



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    2/3rd of stored still out will be into December before being housed.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭endainoz


    All in since yesterday, will hopefully be letting out the weaned heifers in a couple of weeks again. Ground holding up reasonably well but it could get torn up quite quickly too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭straight


    Colder from Sunday. Snow next week maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Milkers onto their 12th rotation on some of the paddocks here lol hmmm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Cows finished today, cover of around 530 on farm. Calves will be out for another bit weather permitting. Between 8 and 9 grazings on all paddocks, bar 1 at 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    This lot went into last paddock. There is 24 in the bunch. Grass is usually very strong inside gap as water trough is there as well. It's a 4 acre paddock. I expect them to get at least 10 days out of it. I have another 14 outside 12 in a bunch that have at least a week in it probably a bit with it.


    This autumn has been brilliant. Now I did spread an extra bit if Urea this autumn. As well I carried less finishing cattle into October than last few years I started to feed the last if the cattle 2-3 weeks earlier. On average I reckon I will be it 5-6 weeks longer.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Nice cattle, nice grass and a nice long winter coat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Nothing like a few Black and White minstrels coming up to December as well.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    Weather is just too mild for cattle in sheds. Grass is still growing at rates you'd see in early September. I have a bunch of Springers housed now as they are Calving at the moment. I opened up the doors on the sheds to allow more airflow in. Have some that calved and let out, the calves are flying it, cows have plenty milk too. I put mineral buckets with them and they are using them so the grass might be lacking a bit this time of the year.

    I've reduced the amount together outside, the biggest bunch is 6 cow pairs and the bull, the rest are all in 3s and 4s and grass is making a good battle so i haven't given them any supplementary feeding yet.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭893bet


    Will this autumn be “free” as such or as are soils going to be next da hungry next year due ti the additional grazings people got?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    I'd say no, this is free grazing. If the land was getting badly poached then there is a price to be paid in Spring but as it is the ground conditions are excellent for this time of year.

    The only issue I can see lads having is if we get a hard frost down on this soft growth, any place not grazed will have a coat of frost bitten brown grass to deal with in Spring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    It is free grazing as Easten says ground conditions still excellent. Only catch is that heavy covers do not recover as fast as lighter covers would have. However heavy covers grazed in later October/ early November have greened up.

    The other factor is that I had 40+ bales left over last year. I Normally would have 60+ bales gone at this stage between any finishing cattle and cattle housed. Unless I still have cattle housed in late April I think I will be looking at up on a 100 bale surplus.

    With fertlizer prices I think I can reduce my first cut area by 5 acres and keep it in the grazing platform. 150 bales will probably be enough to add to the 100+ for winter 22/23.

    I am gauging that I can gamble buying fertlizer as well and cut back my order by 2-3 ton.


    Do not worry about frost or even feavy frost on grass. All it dose is increase the DM of the grass. Ya if you are a dairy farmer then you do not want it. However drystock will graze and thrive on this in springtime. Even if they run into late March/April before being grazed cattle are better off on them than inside in a shed. After 3-4 months on concrete cattle always do better outside.

    Slava Ukrainii



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,373 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It's the same as a cover crop in tillage.

    The longer it stays warmer and dryish the longer the leaching nutrients stay in the soil root depth. The leaching nutrients being nitrogen, phosphorus, sulphur, boron.

    Longer grazing more dungpats too which have their own carbon element to store those nutrients.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    That the beauty of traditional breeds they are no hassle. I had to.mive them from one field though a paddock to this one. I ran a fence with pigtails and string along a ditch to this one. I went into the paddock they were in and they came to me( the paddock was well grazed out) I allowed them all to come to me and they were on the far side of the gap to the direction they would travelling along the pigtail fence. I opened the gap and they ran out the gap, I was out ahead to stop them breaking straight out.

    I had them move in ten to fifteen minutes and that was including putting up the temporary fence roadway.

    As long as there is any current in a fence they stay in the paddock they are in.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    I had the cows in for a week, I was looking at a paddock I reseeded that wasn't strong enough to graze but is now. Should I let them back out for a few days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Depends on how the ground would hold up I suppose, wouldn't it be a bit more susceptible to poaching if it has recently been reseeded?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭valtra2


    Ah that brings a end to this year's grazing. Just let last of the autumn calfers in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    What month of the year is it at all ?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭Jb1989




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭orchard farm


    Is the old prophecy coming true “man won’t know the seasons but for the leaves on the tree”




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,730 ✭✭✭Jb1989




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