Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I was listening to that yesterday, the traveller was talking all the rumours and misinformation that some travellers believe. One of them was that the vaccine turns you magnetic and cutlery will stick to you. Not a million miles away from some of the rubbish spouted on this forum on a daily basis. Misinformation is absolutely rampant nowadays unfortunately. It's sad so many people hear something on a facebook group or whatsapp and instantly believe it without even attempting to fact check it which in most cases can be done in seconds.

Its a bit lazy to go back around to be fair.

I mean we've already blamed the travellers, would have thought they could have come up with some new bogeymen to distract everyone.

Guess it will be turn of shebheens again soon, followed by another round of the unvaxxed when the boosters are rolled out and then a new rap version of "we all partied at Christmas dont ye know"

Other years are an entirely different scenario. We have never run out of ICU beds. Yes, people have been left on trollies . These are sick but are admitted immediately if urgent treatment is needed. This is what triage does but it would run out of road if Covid was let run riot.

As I say, I'm mostly talking about other countries who don't have the luxury of a 90%+ vaccination rate.

Using surge capacity is normal for us, but ICU patients specifically on A&E trollies and dying in hallways, is not. We scrape through by the skin of our teeth with ICUs full to the brim. And it's quite likely we will this year too.

I've already said exactly what you said in my previous posts. That Ireland's current situation is not far departed from a typical Winter, so based on current figures we can just get the head down and get through.

But if we had lower vaccination rates, it wouldn't be a typical Winter. Even as it is, the burden being placed on our health system by 10% unvaccinated, is immense. If that was 15%, we'd have to forget about coping and think about new measures.

That's the reality for many EU countries at the moment.

The vaccine turns you magnetic and cutlery sticks to you! 😂😂 How can anyone believe that ? I’m sorry you can say misinformation is rife and damaging. I’d agree but theres no excuse for swallowing that . You’d have to be Neolithic man to believe that .

Coppers opening from 6pm to midnight. Nice to see them call the Governments bluff. Close them or dont €€

The modeling is laughable

400k covid cases in January

We've had only 500k cases in 19 months. Why will nobody call them out on this nonsense .

Its ridiculous that they're never called out on it. They have their regular spokesman Fergal Bowers on RTE just quoting them verbatim without question.

Based on 12,000 cases a day and it's their most pessimistic set of numbers. From what we have seen to date on modelling it will be way out but it is unquestionably being used at present to scare people into modifying their behaviour. Meanwhile 83% of over 80s have had boosters and 35% of over 70s.

Sadly the likes of Bowers, Richard Chambers and Gavan Reilly don’t really think it’s appropriate to call any of NPHETs decisions or projections into question.

It’s explainer journalism on behalf of the government. Their job is to translate policy, not question it.

Modelling scenarios are not predictions.

Its nearly 2 years of this stuff and people keep still jump to the same old nonesense.

But they are predictions because the whole point of modelling is to envisage how a situation will develop. Whoever is doing these projections really needs to answer what they are basing these numbers on and what data they are inputting to get them - also has this data set been verified to be somewhat accurate before they used it. It’s not acceptable anymore for this random number bullshit, if you are going to state there will be 200000 cases in December you can fuckin well come out and display the methods you used to calculate it.

Modelling scenarios are used to dictate policy and are for all intents and purposes the same thing as predictions