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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭rosser44




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 thefuman


    does it really matter he just exposed the usa for the banana republic it is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It's no fun if we don't get to see a perp walk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Yes he has. But if there was equal justice under the law, he shouldn't have to and be able to get the Eric Holder treatment. But we know there isn’t equal justice under the law. When democrats break the law then leniency is the standard and when republicans break the law it’s harsh treatment. Hell, even when republicans don’t break the law it’s harsh treatment.

    Look at the latest… Special Council John Durham, is slowly unraveling the biggest fraud in US political history. So, last week Danchenko received a five-count indictment of lying to the FBI during the questioning of him related to his role as Christopher Steele’s primary sub source for the bogus dossier that enabled Obama to spy on the Trump campaign. And with that we find out a Clinton operative, Charles Dolan, actually fed Danchenko the false information that Danchenko then presented to Steele as intelligence. Steele then vomited Danchenko’s claims of the Clinton campaign funded faux dossier and provided it to the FBI as fact. They lied about it to the FISA court, and all of which ultimately led to to Trump being wrongfully impeached

    Do you think Hillary Clinton and all other top level democrats will be arrested and charged in the biggest fraud in US political history? Of course not, not with double standards worse than what I’ve witnessed here.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Of courst there were illegalities, even in my state. Our governor broke the law when he unilaterally changed the election laws in 2020, of which only the state legislature has the authority to change election law.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    So.. The Democrats are master fraudsters and somehow get away with it all whereas the GOP are pure as the driven snow ,but they can't seem get a single conviction/judgement for anything anywhere , even when they controlled all three branches of Government and have appointed thousands of Judges at all levels across the country. And then when the Democrats are in power they are able to get "fake" indictments and convictions aplenty for literally dozens of GOP operatives?

    If we accept that the above is true, then that says that the GOP are utterly useless and staggeringly incompetent in their level of abject failure to bring all these appalling people to Justice.

    OR - It's all lies and the lack of convictions for Democrats is a measure of the accuracy of the GOP conspiracy theories.

    Incompetent Fools or Inveterate liars seem to be the only choices available here.

    The GOP don't come off looking good in either scenario now do they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse



    I'll agree with you that republicans are utterly useless when they control all three branches of the federal government. The need to learn to be more like democrats in that regard.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    And those indictments you speak of... did you notice none of them had to do with what they were primarily investigating. They were all for things that happened before trump. It was a witch hunt and a fishing expedition, pure and simple.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,041 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    how can they be for the primary reason of the investigation when the GOP think they can ignore the investigation with impunity? the GOP are doing their damndest to stop any investigation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭Cody montana




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Absolutely. So far down the rabbit hole he can't find his way out.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Jesus - this seems poignant for a couple of posters here...


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,424 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Alex Jones has definitely suffered from psychosis in the past, that's true. It lasted from the start of his career, at least, up to the time of writing this, and the prognosis for the future isn't good either.

    If nothing else, he's a good reminder of how easy it is to mass indoctrinate people with paranoid ideas, and history has shown that it never leads anywhere good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭francois


    His a total POS. I want to see his pathetic life ruined,like he did to the parents of murdered kids. Utter scumbag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Imagine a car gets pulled over for speeding. The police search the car and there's a body in the boot. Do you think the police should let the driver go because the body has nothing to do with the speeding that was the initial cause for suspicion?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    No, it's more like a car gets pulled over simply because the driver is black (Trump supporter) and the police make up some trumped up charge (pun intended). Then compound the car and search the contents and find nothing. They then check trough his background just because they don't like blacks (Trump supporters) and find out he has unpaid parking tickets from 15 years ago and lock him up and throw the book at him simply because they don't like him.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,888 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    This is some serious lunacy. Trump was impeached because he tried to put the arm on the Ukraine, and was caught at it. Nothing to do with the Steele Dossier.

    Durham has nothing, apparently. Just some bad behavior under James Comey's FBI. His indictments are around lying to the FBI. I predict we'll hear more of those in our lifetimes.


    And, if you're paying attention, most of Trump's inner circle (Bannon, Flynn) have been convicted of felonies.

    Sorry if you're still butthurt about the Steele dossier, but as far as the future of Donald Trump goes, it doesn't look too good, the Jan 6 commission is indicting away. Next up likely to be Meadows. Woot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Your rebuttal is fundamentally flawed as you equal racial identity with political identity. You are born with your racial identity, you cannot change it for the rest of your life, and can be identified (and thus subject to profiling) from your physical identity. Your political identity is not given to you at birth, you can hide it pretty much from anyone, and you can change it whenever you like. They are in no way the same, try again



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    That is an absolutely horrific comparison. There's times where I really don't understand what's wrong with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump supporters - Trump will run again in 2024 and win!

    Trump - currently giving an interview to the My Pillow guy while wearing a tux


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,424 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump, by just about any current poll AFAIK, is a virtual shoe-in to take the Republican nomination, should he choose to throw his hat in the ring again. As to whether he could actually take the presidency, well, that's harder to call. Biden, a centrist who'd be in his early 80s by then, would seem like a very unexciting choice. Kamala Harris seems to be a polarising figure in the States, even though she'd be seen as a fairly normal centre-right politician most anywhere else in the developed world. The political machinery in the States is not geared toward pushing people to the fore who'd actually excite the electorate. That would be too unpredictable. It would take somebody else pretty much sidestepping the whole glad-handing process, as Trump did, and use other means to reach voters. Even then, it would still mean primarying the sitting president - a pretty unusual move, or Biden recognising the way things were going, and deciding not to run a second time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,635 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I don’t think he’ll run.

    Democrats should run someone young.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    This time last year , the Nevada GOP used the story told by Donald "Kirk" Hartle as definitive proof that voter fraud had occurred and that the Nevada result should be questioned/overturned.

    At the time Mr Hartle claimed that "someone" had voted pretending to be his dead wife.

    Last November, Donald "Kirk" Hartle told KLAS that someone cast a ballot in the election for his wife, Rosemarie Hartle, who died of breast cancer in 2017. It was "sickening," he said, and "made no sense to me, but it lent some credence to what you've been hearing in the media about these possibilities and now it makes me wonder how pervasive this is?" The Nevada GOP pounced, tweeting video of the interview with a caption asking, "How did the forged signature pass Clark County's signature verification machine? And this isn't the only case of a deceased person voting in NV."

    Turns out , that someone was HIM and now he has pled guilty to the charges.

    The Nevada secretary of state and attorney general's offices, which investigate allegations of voter fraud, filed charges against Kirk Hartle, accusing him of mailing in his late wife's ballot and voting twice in the election. Hartle agreed to plead guilty to avoid serving time in prison, and was sentenced on Tuesday to probation and ordered to pay a $2,000 fine. "Ultimately to me, this seems like a cheap political stunt that kind of backfired and shows that our voting system actually works because you were ultimately caught," Judge Carli Kierny said. 

    Accused others of that which you are guilty, eh?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    I think it's important for people to remember that in the space of 4 years, Trump managed to lose the Senate, House, Presidency and was impeached twice. And yet, the majority of Republicans still seem to want him as their 2024 nominee. It would make you ask serious questions about what exactly is going on in American society, that such a high percentage of the country will believe every word that a pathological liar says. Where do you go from there?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's also stuff like the Wyoming GOP trying to kick Cheney out claiming that she's a RINO etc.

    Liz Cheney no longer represents the values of the GOP apparently.

    A Cheney isn't Republican enough for todays GOP , a CHENEY!!!!!!

    The GOP are now simply a cult of personality , the ONLY value is fealty to Trump. A man who conned his way to the 2016 win by virtue of Clinton being awful and people giving him the benefit of the doubt.

    Since then though he has lost or killed each and every thing that he has touched.

    If they stick with Trump either the GOP dies or US Democracy does.

    And defending against that are the Democrats who seem to only excel at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory , stabbing each other while they do so.

    Not good.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,538 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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