Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I'll have to ignore it as it's paywalled! 😅

Still don't understand what the purpose of the Covid cert in all this. If an unvaccinated young person gets Covid they will statistically be fine. Your focussing on the case numbers only. Meanwhile more than 50% of cases in hospital are in the 65+ age group who have almost universal vaccination.

I've gone blind I reckon but where does it say that 13,895 were 12 and under in that article?

I was working off the vaccinated figure as this would exclude children.

58,361 total cases, 25,433 fully vaccinated (75% fully vaccinated population at the time)

32,928 total cases in unvaccinated people (including under 12s)

So 25433 cases (43%) came from 75% of the population fully vaccinated.

32,928 cases (57%) came from 25% of the population who are unvaccinated

How many of those are U12 because that's crucial otherwise you many not be interpreting this correctly.

That part I get then, although it's a bit erroneous to include the  6,736 unknown vaccination status in the unvaccinated. They could easily all be vaccinated. That's still not 40% of cases are coming from 8% of the population though even if that 6k were unvaccinated. 57% coming from 25% is also not great but considering the nonsense with schools makes sense. Can't see where the breakdown is coming of the under 12 to over 12 unvaccinated either.

I took the HSPC data from those 6 weeks to find the number of cases in the under 12's

It's not a perfect calculation, but I was just trying to show a poster that 100% of the cases are not solely confined to the unvaccinated 12+ year olds.

For the under 12 figures, I took it non were vaccinated and got the number of cases from the HPSC for that age group for the 6 weeks.

Something like entry fee and all you can drink for €50 would be nice attention grabber.

There's a bad non covid winter virus going around. Plenty of people I know have it or had it in the last 2-3 weeks, not covid as they've all got tested. But I have to wonder, are our immune systems weaker than usual given we haven't been interacting properly with people over the last 20 months, that coupled with constantly applying hand sanitiser, maybe we're doing ourselves more harm than good.

And extra time of a Sunday!

It closes nightclubs fully without it saying “we’re closing nightclubs”

That’s the main reasoning as far as I can see

Nightclubs opened so recently that there is no data on their impact to numbers as of yet. To claim there is is just lies and covering for sectors where the spread is making an impact. The clue for me was in the news about care homes and hospitals being main sources for outbreaks a couple weeks ago and this being a concern. Quite simply the spread in these settings is uncontrollable that they cannot afford for any sort of spread in the wider public. People are getting confused and trying to split hairs between covid certs and clubs/pubs etc but the reality is that it is all just a deflection from a pathetic health service. For that reason, by respecting restrictions you are letting the health service away with their incompetence.

I suppose the thing to remember is that our hospitals always run over capacity so the apparent number of beds that is the limit available is not reflective of the fact that there are some things resembling beds which can be made up if necessary (e.g. trollies). Pre-covid, every winter our hospitals ran over capacity. We shouldn't be locking down society because of it but questioning why the likes of Paul Reid on €420k, Anne O'Connor etc. are still holding senior roles in the HSE when they've clearly been on the gravy train for their whole career and never bothered to change the system which has made them so wealthy?