Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Where did I say “I believe antigen testing is working?”

That other vaccines are given to children is so irrelevant to a decision about a given new vaccine, it hurts

I was just thinking today that I have shown my Covid cert in probably 90% of pubs, cafes, restaurants etc but I have never once been asked for ID. It must be easy to cheat the system. Mainly Galway.

You're questioning the data in a bit to spread FUD. If you want to question the validity of the data, then bring the data along for questioning, don't post with "I'm just asking questions", the data is there, you can answer your questions with the data and present why it's an issue. Risk/benefit is brought up multiple times because it is far risker for a child to contract COVID without a vaccine then with a vaccine (information posted a few days ago on the forum), the risk is low of both but the risk with the vaccine is lower. The risk/benefit of other diseases which children are vaccinated against is lower than the COVID vaccines yet you're not bringing up issues with the MMR or Polio or 6-in-1 shots because it doesn't suit.

Feel free to label me an anti-vaxxer or conspiracy theorist, but bring evidence to do so (well, you may try as name calling without evidence).

No doubt you'll be back soon "worrying" about the children when they approve the 5-11 year old rollout of the most widely used vaccines in human history.

It's relevant from a risk profile perspective, younger people are subjected to more vaccines than older people, the vaccines are all designed to generate an immune response (how they do so differs), the side effects of what happens when the immune response occurs are well understood for the younger age groups due to the amount of vaccines that they are routinely given.

Which means the sole area is whether the mechanism is of any concern for younger people and based on the trial data, it isn't. But again, to disagree with that, you have to fly in the face of all the approval authorities and all the experts in the field and I've no doubt you'll try and do that by misreading a few trial results and conclusions.

I don't think so, it's just lately most of the posters showing signs of high level of ignorance on this thread. IMO

I think you could do with a break as it seems to bother you that some of us just do what we think is right

I mean masks on , doing antigen tests , going for a PCR etc . None of these effect you so why not simply let people do as they see fit for their circumstances ?

If I want to do an antigen test daily why is that bothering you ? You spend a lot of time telling posters to get on with life. Surely that is their decision how they get on and what they choose to do to keep themselves and their family safe ??

I am staying out of indoor crowded places these days for a specific reason and not asking you to do the same . Let people choose how they conduct their lives and realise that we all have reasons for our choices

Well you're not going to the wedding cos you get a positive result on one. If you don't actually believe they work then, I've no idea what you're on about.

From HSE guidelines for preventing the spread of Covid 19:   

*keep at least 2 metres (around 6 feet) away from people you do not live with as much as possible (social distancing)

*try to avoid crowded places where you cannot social distance - there's a greater risk of infection in crowded and enclosed places

Colleges are public buildings and should be following public health advice regardless of what you think young people should be doing. It also beggars belief that I have to prove my vaccination status to get a cup of coffee in the local cafe, but can walk into a campus have lunch whatever mingle freely without having to show anything.

I expect come Monday we're going into a whole new cycle of fun as hospital numbers approach 700. Even though it's well inside NPHETs models and they've advised no major changes, the usual talking heads on RTE tell us it's time to panic and start closing things.

**** exhausting.

I guess the only way to maintain our sanity is to pick the level of caution we're individually most comfortable with and run with it, while respecting the level others have chosen.

It feels like the only way out of this is through it now.

I think we have it in our house now with a positive antigen test today. PCR first thing tomorrow was earliest I could get.