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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    No, this is what he said.


    “Several months before the 2016 election, Trump pledged he would be able to eliminate the national debt – then around $19 trillion – “over a period of eight years.””


    He then increased total debt by a quarter in only 4 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭randd1


    The GOP? He has the money pouring in for him via the GOP base. And he pretty much runs it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Business, not a political party. Trump ran as a sucsessful businessman, but as we all know that's total guff



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Think there's a difference between "running a successful business" and "running a successful Grift"

    He's done none of the former and quite a bit of the latter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭BattleCorp1



    Time seem to think he has run some of them successfully. Sure, some have been run disastrously, but he has had successes too. Some of his properties have made him a lot of money or are worth a lot of money.

    https://time.com/3988970/donald-trump-business/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Sorry - halving it in the first term is what I remembered. Kind of the same as eliminating it 8.

    His predictable failure of course was implied.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Only successful at buying buildings in prime locations and sticking his name on them. Anything other than being a landlord of prime real estate is beyond his skill set.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Indeed - Making money in NY Real-Estate isn't exactly hard (although he does a decent job of making it so).

    Once he had the "little loan" from his father to get the ball rolling he was away.

    Having said that any number of better business people than him (which is all of them) would have made orders of magnitude more of the opportunities presented than he did.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Are you actually being serious now. Trump was winning because the votes from Philadelphia hadn’t been counted yet. The biggest population centre that was predicted to go more than 70-30 in Biden’s favour.


    If this is what passes for “evidence” in your mind, I’m don’t with this. It’s absolutely ludicrous to question the integrity of an election based on something so paper thin. Philadelphia got out the votes to swing Pa for Trump. Legally.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    Counting all of the votes from each area is apparently stealing an election in Trumps book, along with allowing people to vote which shouldn't be allowed either. They surely can't be actually comprehending the words that they are typing when stating these things as it so completely ludicrous.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Freddie Mcinerney


    He be arguing with the locals at his golf links.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,672 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    What does the future hold for Donald Trump? He will continue repeating the Big Lie in rallies, fund raisers, on Fox and Friends, and through surrogates like My Pillow guy. Why? Because it is working to his political advantage. If he tells the Big Lie enough times, just like repetitious TV advertising, many people will buy it.

    Trump will run for the Republican primary in 2024 with the Big Lie as the MAJOR PLANK of his political platform. He will win the Republican nomination. Even though he does NOT have any objective, empirical evidence to support his Big Lie claims. He and his surrogates were unable to provide evidence that would have overturned the election in over 60 court cases at the state, federal, and US Supreme levels. Several of these federal judges were Republican appointees. All he has, and his surrogates, are "what if..." conspiracy theories without any demonstrable substance that would stand up in court.

    There were many recounts in swing states paid for with taxpayer monies that did not overturn any of them. Millions of dollars wasted. Even Cyber Ninjas, paid for by the Republican controlled Arizona Senate, could not find any empirical evidence that would have resulted in overturning the AZ election results. If Trump loses the 2024 general election, expect many expensive state recounts paid for with taxpayer monies. And expect Trump to continue with his Big Lie claims if he loses 2024 just like 2020. If anything, like 2020, and Trump loses 2024, he will establish beyond a reasonable doubt that he is a POOR LOSER.

    How did Biden steal the election from Trump in Georgia? When the governor, and Secretary of State (responsible for elections) were both Republicans? Why did Republican controlled Georgia certify Biden's election on 6 January 2021?

    Why did Republican Mike Pence, Trump's Vice President and 2020 running mate, certify the 6 January 2021 election/Electoral College results for all 50 states before Congress? Why did Trump's US Attorney General William Barr (Republican) declare that the U.S. Justice Department has uncovered no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the 2020 election?

    If Trump loses in 2024, let's hope that "the future hold for Donald Trump" does not include a second insurrection attempt that succeeds in making him US dictator.

    Cmod Science, Health, and Environment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Another felony violation. He's really making easy for them at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    JUST IN: Federal appeals court has granted Trump’s request to pause release of documents to January 6 committee

    FFS!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,680 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Temporary till 30 Nov, with a filing needed Tuesday. They're moving along at court speed. This isn't surprising, there really was no way they'd kick the appeal out the first day.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It's to allow time for his appeal to the dismissal of his earlier attempt.

    The judges also explicitly noted that the stay was "in no way a judgement on the merits of the case" - Code for "His argument is bullsh!t but he's entitled to an appeal"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    That is some good fantasy stuff, my dear. The main goal of the recounts and investigations was to get legislation enacted so that the illegal and wretched actions taken in the 2020 election, making the election rife for abuses, doesn't happen again. Trump will continue to dominate much of the news because the majority of the mainstream media, who have abandoned journalistic integrity, and act primarily as handmaidens of the democrat party, are addicted to Trump becuase there is nothing good to report on regarding Biden and the democrats march to destroy America. He'll continue to be a force in politics into the 2024 election and beyond because the media can't help themselves when it comes to their boogeyman.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,146 ✭✭✭✭robinph


    What?

    "The recounts were not because of dodgy voting, but because of potential dodgy voting in future elections and to ensure that the stuff which didn't happen doesn't happen again, even though it never happened in the first place."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Billy Mays




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    You were away for a while, I was genuinely hoping that you were away getting treatment for your delusions.

    Sadly, this seems not to have been the case.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    This bit we can 100% agree on

    The main goal of the recounts and investigations was to get legislation enacted.

    However we immediately diverge thereafter.

    There was no fraud , No "Illegal and wretched action" - There has never been fraud of any significant quantity to alter an election result.

    What the GOP saw was in 2020 the "Demographic writing on the wall" and the disturbing realisation that expanding access to voting was BAD for them.

    Not bad for democracy , just bad for THEM so it had to be stopped.

    They have no interest in fairness or democracy , their only interest is in power at all costs.

    So , leveraging the delusional outpourings of a vicious pathetic narcissist they are expending all of their energy on restricting access to voting , gerrymandering districts out of all recognition and giving themselves the power to overturn democratic results that they don't like.



  • Posts: 8,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speaking of rigging elections, here is a great article posted today explaining how Republicans are in fact the ones rigging elections through gerrymandering.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Unfortunately they've been doing that (and getting away with it) for years now. There's few worse things currently than the United States Republican Party, beholden to Donald Trump. I disagreed with John McCain on pretty much everything but he must be turning in his grave at the current state and approach of that party.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    Steve Bannon has at last been Indicted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,054 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,040 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well that was fast. Or maybe it was that the justice dept is working as it should.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Both him and Meadows are citing advice from Trump as to why they ignored their sub-poenas. Trump will destroy everyone that he's ever encountered and the sooner it happens, the better.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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