Climate Bolloxolgy.

Don't think he would have a positive response to getting a carbon footprint of his burger king 👑

If organic land multiplies by 5, forestry increases and we lower fertiliser and chemical usage. Then we decrease imported soya and wheat and start feeding anaerobic digester with home grown Maize. Wheres all this extra land going to come from?

Cant believe there are farmers on here wishing for more rules and regulations measuring carbon footprints. You have got to realise that it doesent matter what we do we will only ever get "world market " price for our produce. Any supposed benefits from being "best in Class" will be gobbled up by middle men and processors along the way. Look at the board bia origin green B,,,,,t we were told we would get a bonus if we jumped through their hoops, instead it is now a penalty system where you will not get full price if not certified.

I'm looking closely at the whole mss thing here, but one thing that isn't inspiring confidence in me yet is the yeilds in his trial:

Yearly yeild of 11.8tons per ha, with 150units of N. The prg figures in that study were brutal also, how the hell did they only get 10.5t/ha from a prg with 300units N. Without too much measurement, I'm doing something like 12t/ha with mostly prg and maybe 25 or 30% of the paddocks with some bit of clover, and spreading 150units bag N, will I actually achieve a major lot more going down the MSS road? As Dwag just said you can't turn all this around overnight, and expect to lob in abit of clover and mss and slash your bag N, it defo takes time to get it right, and I'll cautious of f##king things up too much. One thing I have decided on, I'm certainly not going down a full MSS road yet, instead it wil be very much so a half prg half MSS, PRG needs to be a significant part of the sward for grazing on the shoulders when your clover in particular will grow absolutely nothing.

In NEW Zealand some farmers are spraying the urea @ much reduced rates. Following web site gives details. https://donaghys.com/product/n-boost/

Some would, I'd say many would look at the price first and the health of the wallet might take precedence over the health of the climate.

Cnoc ah please, the Irish government didn't do it deliberately, are you really going give them that much credit for being that clever ha? It was pure tunnel vision CO2 is baaaddd, lets go to a CO2 based motor tax like the UK (but of course vrt also which is much higher in Ireland so much bigger incentive to buy a lower Co2 car), the vehicle manufacturers who were globally under pressure to reduce Co2 did as all good corporate soulless capitalists who actually dont give a fook about the environment, they were the ones who cleverly cheated their way around diesel co2 emissions, with software that bypasses most the NOx reducing onboard devices during normal driving conditions (ie while not on the NEDC emissions test cycle).

Well said and well put it's a cod to think anything else but sure people think it's what the public want. When all they want is cheap food simple as that

What compensation are you talking about. Do you know something the rest of us dont. All I can see it they are just carving up the existing money differently. Taking from on farmer to give a little to another.

Most if not all of the cheap polluting MAIZE used on my farm over the last decade is french ..... and yes I enquire I always did do and will continue to do so (long before it was fashionable and long after its not) I don't get your point here dawg we all know too much fertilizer is bad there's for and against everything most of the systems used on the continent won't work in the vast majority of this country . maybe bigger changes again are coming from Europe and if they do people will deal with them but it more than likely won't be myself dealing with it

At least the milk price is creeping up. Latest Kerry forward milk price confirmed @ 38.5 per litre.

Will next year be a reference year for nitrates.

Ya the two places I was dealing with one Midlands and the other slightly more east both swearing it's french maize maybe there pulling the wool over my eyes 🙄🤔🤔it is possible . they were talking that it was quality issues that had them buying it

Manure. The EPA would have been well aware that trading one fuel for another was trading one type of emission for another. Absolutely nothing to do with the car manufacturers NOX cheating as diesels had hugely higher emissions of such, even at the lower cheated figure at the time Gormley was being an idiot. If you think they are not culpable, please do explain why the taxation balance on fuels and registration haven't been reversed theses last several years, even after the govt announced diesel NOX was bad and they wanted to reduce it?

It would be interesting to know why the EPA didn't raise the issue of diesel emissions containing the most potent carcinogen ever discovered - 3-Nitrobenzanthrone - something known about since about 1993, or thereabouts, and challenge Gormley and the Greens on the whole trading harmless CO2 for NOX plus potent carcinogens thing.

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